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Apr 16, 2021

F 250 vs Ram 2500

The wifey and I are discussing a new truck in the next 2 years. Right now we have a 2013 Ford F 150 SCAB long box. When we have children, she wants a crew. I cannot give up the 8 foot box. AFAIK no on...
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Apr 27, 2021
Grit dog wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
swimmer_spe wrote:
Me Again wrote:
kellem wrote:
OP, if your looking new then Ford currently owns the market with the 6.7 PS or the 7.3 gas.
I actually wanted a Ram but simply couldn't overlook this.


It is called different strokes for different folks. I had three RAM/Cummins trucks(1993, 2001.5 and 2015) and loved each one. Never was stranded on the side of the road, 1994 to 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXutuWDIGU4


If only they made that truck combination. How bad are the Dodge transmissions?


While the diesel “gurus” are arguing the finer points of fuel mileage and who’s trans is real and who’s is fake....

Dodge ( to trigger the “it’s a RAM” folks) HD truck aren’t “bad” per se. But the 68, while as reliable as any (IMO) is just a clunky antiquated unit that shifts like a wet bag of dog c rap. The Aisin is a stout get er done great towing trans ( although the 68 acts better towing than bobtail) that doesn’t have any meaningful aftermarket ability to be built up for the (small %) of mod truck guys. IMO it’s on par with Ford and GMs old 6 speeds, easily.
BUT since you’re a ways out from buying a new truck, the “Dodge” will have a 8speed ZF trans very soon. It’s not highly publicized, actually Ram and ZF are keeping it on the down low, but the deal is done. Then Ram will have a trans that is competitive with the current competition.


Let me guess. A receptionist when you were touring the ZF plant gave you that nugget of info as long as you promised not to tell? Did they also tell you about a new emissions system that was going to increase fuel efficiency and power?.....


Wow, you’re not usually this douchy....
But no, idfk where a ZF plant even is. So you’re right, I’m full of ____. And my (insert cousins uncles girlfriends brother) who is a 20 year employee of ZF in their transit and heavy highway division who drove one as early as 2018 and as recent as last year Is probably full of it too.
So long live the 68re I suppose?


LOL. You complaining about someone writing a "douchy" response may be the best thing I've read on this forum in quite some time. Makes me wonder if you even read anything that you write?

Listen, I would love for you to be correct about a ZF upgrade. I think the ZF8HP is one of the best transmissions I've driven. But color me skeptical about anyone who claims to have some insider knowledge about it being just around the corner.

With the history of many on here that have claimed to know specifics about future upgrades that never come to fruition it seems prudent to hold back on enthusiasm for such claims.

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With going up to a 3/4 ton, I am thinking of going diesel. With the ones in the new trucks, which is the best? The rest of the truck, are they good?","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2021-04-16T10:04:41.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:Tow Vehicles","text":"Tow Vehicles","time":"2007-11-11T19:40:46.000-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3560424_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":19682},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"The wifey and I are discussing a new truck in the next 2 years. Right now we have a 2013 Ford F 150 SCAB long box. When we have children, she wants a crew. I cannot give up the 8 foot box. AFAIK no one makes a half ton with both. So, we will be moving to a 3/4 ton.

With going up to a 3/4 ton, I am thinking of going diesel. With the ones in the new trucks, which is the best? The rest of the truck, are they good?"},"Conversation:conversation:3560424":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3560424","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3560424"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2021-04-27T16:10:07.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2021-04-27T16:10:07.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":120,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3560424":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3560424","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3560424_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3560424_1","lastEditTime":"2021-04-16T10:04:41.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3560538":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3560538","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3560424"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:52110"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3560538,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"subject":"Re: F 250 vs Ram 2500","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3560538"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3560424"},"body":"
Grit dog wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
swimmer_spe wrote:
Me Again wrote:
kellem wrote:
OP, if your looking new then Ford currently owns the market with the 6.7 PS or the 7.3 gas.
I actually wanted a Ram but simply couldn't overlook this.


It is called different strokes for different folks. I had three RAM/Cummins trucks(1993, 2001.5 and 2015) and loved each one. Never was stranded on the side of the road, 1994 to 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXutuWDIGU4


If only they made that truck combination. How bad are the Dodge transmissions?


While the diesel “gurus” are arguing the finer points of fuel mileage and who’s trans is real and who’s is fake....

Dodge ( to trigger the “it’s a RAM” folks) HD truck aren’t “bad” per se. But the 68, while as reliable as any (IMO) is just a clunky antiquated unit that shifts like a wet bag of dog c rap. The Aisin is a stout get er done great towing trans ( although the 68 acts better towing than bobtail) that doesn’t have any meaningful aftermarket ability to be built up for the (small %) of mod truck guys. IMO it’s on par with Ford and GMs old 6 speeds, easily.
BUT since you’re a ways out from buying a new truck, the “Dodge” will have a 8speed ZF trans very soon. It’s not highly publicized, actually Ram and ZF are keeping it on the down low, but the deal is done. Then Ram will have a trans that is competitive with the current competition.


Let me guess. A receptionist when you were touring the ZF plant gave you that nugget of info as long as you promised not to tell? Did they also tell you about a new emissions system that was going to increase fuel efficiency and power?.....


Wow, you’re not usually this douchy....
But no, idfk where a ZF plant even is. So you’re right, I’m full of ____. And my (insert cousins uncles girlfriends brother) who is a 20 year employee of ZF in their transit and heavy highway division who drove one as early as 2018 and as recent as last year Is probably full of it too.
So long live the 68re I suppose?


LOL. You complaining about someone writing a \"douchy\" response may be the best thing I've read on this forum in quite some time. Makes me wonder if you even read anything that you write?

Listen, I would love for you to be correct about a ZF upgrade. I think the ZF8HP is one of the best transmissions I've driven. But color me skeptical about anyone who claims to have some insider knowledge about it being just around the corner.

With the history of many on here that have claimed to know specifics about future upgrades that never come to fruition it seems prudent to hold back on enthusiasm for such claims.","body@stringLength":"3035","rawBody":"
Grit dog wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
Grit dog wrote:
swimmer_spe wrote:
Me Again wrote:
kellem wrote:
OP, if your looking new then Ford currently owns the market with the 6.7 PS or the 7.3 gas.
I actually wanted a Ram but simply couldn't overlook this.


It is called different strokes for different folks. I had three RAM/Cummins trucks(1993, 2001.5 and 2015) and loved each one. Never was stranded on the side of the road, 1994 to 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXutuWDIGU4


If only they made that truck combination. How bad are the Dodge transmissions?


While the diesel “gurus” are arguing the finer points of fuel mileage and who’s trans is real and who’s is fake....

Dodge ( to trigger the “it’s a RAM” folks) HD truck aren’t “bad” per se. But the 68, while as reliable as any (IMO) is just a clunky antiquated unit that shifts like a wet bag of dog c rap. The Aisin is a stout get er done great towing trans ( although the 68 acts better towing than bobtail) that doesn’t have any meaningful aftermarket ability to be built up for the (small %) of mod truck guys. IMO it’s on par with Ford and GMs old 6 speeds, easily.
BUT since you’re a ways out from buying a new truck, the “Dodge” will have a 8speed ZF trans very soon. It’s not highly publicized, actually Ram and ZF are keeping it on the down low, but the deal is done. Then Ram will have a trans that is competitive with the current competition.


Let me guess. A receptionist when you were touring the ZF plant gave you that nugget of info as long as you promised not to tell? Did they also tell you about a new emissions system that was going to increase fuel efficiency and power?.....


Wow, you’re not usually this douchy....
But no, idfk where a ZF plant even is. So you’re right, I’m full of ____. And my (insert cousins uncles girlfriends brother) who is a 20 year employee of ZF in their transit and heavy highway division who drove one as early as 2018 and as recent as last year Is probably full of it too.
So long live the 68re I suppose?


LOL. You complaining about someone writing a \"douchy\" response may be the best thing I've read on this forum in quite some time. Makes me wonder if you even read anything that you write?

Listen, I would love for you to be correct about a ZF upgrade. I think the ZF8HP is one of the best transmissions I've driven. But color me skeptical about anyone who claims to have some insider knowledge about it being just around the corner.

With the history of many on here that have claimed to know specifics about future upgrades that never come to fruition it seems prudent to hold back on enthusiasm for such 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