Plan B RV wrote:
twodownzero wrote:
I'm confused about the numbers you posted. I'm interested in the GCWR and GVWR, especially the former. 3,200 pounds on the 5th wheel isn't much. This year's pickup trucks are rated to pull your trailer. I also don't think "payload" means what you think it means. Payload = GVWR - GVW.
GVWR = GVW
GCWR = GCW
Payload = GVW - Curbweight
Unfortunately I did not find curb-weight of international on official website. But on some site I saw that's 7K lbs.
So International GVW 22.9 minus curb-weight 7K = payload 15.9.
As for as 3200 lbs hitch, but I have water, generator and AUX diesel. It adds up fast.
f-350 can tow 20K toy-hauler. Payload is restricted to less then 6K
Is your toy hauler 20k or 36k? You mentioned a 15.9k lb payload on top of the trailer. I'm not aware of any toy hauler with tires and axles rated for that much. I believe the largest ones I've seen have 18k lb gvwrs.
Payload capacity is not your main concern with the trucks above. But if you're really going to pull the kind of weight you are talking about, you may need a special license. And no way those trucks weigh 7k, even empty. With a bed they are going to weigh twice that or more.
Post the weight ratings for the trucks (GCWR, GVWR, and empty weight of the truck full of fuel, and we might be able to have some clue if a truck that big is necessary for you; I think not.
1 ton trucks have payload capacities of nearly 8k in some configurations and the 550/5500 series trucks have much more than that, way beyond that which is necessary for 3,200 lb pin weight which can be handled by any modern 1 ton dually and even some single wheel trucks.