FCA Proposes a Merger with Renault

RobertRyan wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

They are not the same frames from what I have read. The US Colorado/Canyon frame is longer to accommodate for the longer beds in our market. The US frame is also supposedly 40% lighter due to the use of "high-strength steel" while still having the same yield strength according to GM

I do not think so as you can get 10ft Utility beds on the Colorado here US payloads are a lot less

Well then take it up with GM because their own executive said the US version is longer and wider than the Holden version. Payload are a lot less in the US for these trucks because

1)The GVWR of the class these trucks are in is capped at 6k so having a 4.5-5k curb weight does not leave you with much room even if the truck could handle it.

2) Unlike other market, the NA market has more truck choices so truck makes don't have to build these trucks to handle more weight since we have bigger trucks for towing/hauling more weight without needing a special licence. Most people would rather have a larger truck here anyways which is the reason why our large trucks outsell these smaller trucks almost 5 to 1 in the US.

Wrong on virtually everything you said. Do you have a 10ft bed? We do not have that restriction on weight , these US Pickups are not " trucks" and the variety is vastly greater here of actual trucks

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So where was I wrong. That the GM exec saying that the US Colorado is longer? So you are saying the person that makes the truck is wrong? Wow.

US trucks are not trucks? Australia has vastly greater variety What are you smoking? The US currently has 27 pick up truck model choices the last time I counted. That number almost doubles if you want to count cab and chassis models since most have a cab and chassis version as well. How many does Australia have?

No, the US Colorad/Canyon or Ranger does not have a 10 ft pickup bed from the factory, but neither does Australia. You can probably have one added on there just like you can here, but neither do not come from the factory with a 10 ft pickup bed.