Read that today. Will be interesting to see what happens. If it did happen FCA and Renault/Nissan/Mitsubishi...whatever they would call it would be relatively huge. Part of the reason for considering I've read is to consolidate costs regarding R+D, particularly now that the age of the EV seems to be looming ever closer, mostly due to different countries in the world, legislation requiring EV vehicles. FCA and Renault/Nissan/Mitsubishi it would seem need to consolidate...merge...whatever term fits...to become as competitive as they possibly can be in this quickly changing automotive world. GM and Ford, Toyota and Honda are about the only companies that haven't merged with other manufacturers in a big way...and for the first time, I'm starting to think that they too, may well have to consolidate/merge sometime in the future.Lessee...GM/Ford...Toyota/Honda...or maybe GM/Toyota....or Ford/Honda. Just speculation, but it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 10-15 years. As an aside the names would be interesting...would Ford and Honda be Fonda, would GM and Toyota would be ...well I'm not sure. ;)

Who wants a shiny new Fonda?? Step on up. Can see it on the front of a big ole Dooley.......FONDA. Hahaha

Hopefully a merger would mean a return of Renault to the US market. A LeCar or a Fuego makes a great gift to give to your enemies. Not a better paperweight anywhere.

Consolidation is now the rule in all industries. If this happens it would not surprise me. I’d still rather see FCA team up with Kia/Hyundai or Honda. I think either of those would fill out each other’s product line.

Bionic Man wrote:Consolidation is now the rule in all industries. If this happens it would not surprise me. I’d still rather see FCA team up with Kia/Hyundai or Honda. I think either of those would fill out each other’s product line.I would be surprised if Honda teamed up with FCA. Honda is at a different level, from most other automotive companies. Maybe Kia/Hyundai would be more of a fit with FCA. All this change, all this consolidating...kind of like musical chairs, except it's very serious. I do believe there will be a big shaking out in the next decade or so and there will be winners and losers, even among the 'merged' companies. Except in the rounds to come, the losers will be gone, for good.I'm not sure any company is safe...except perhaps BMW, Mercedes, Toyota and Honda.

FCA Proposes a Merger with Renault | Good Sam Community

wilber1
Explorer
May 29, 2019
BillyBob Jim wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
BillyBob Jim wrote:
Lessmore wrote:

Maybe Kia/Hyundai would be more of a fit with FCA.

Why would they want to associate themselves with FCA? Kia/Hyundai produces vehicles that are much higher quality than anything FCA has ever produced, or will ever produce. Too bad they don't make trucks.

Except for their 4 cyl engines catching fire.

Yes, except for that and the fact they dont have to check drag links and weld them lol. Forget about the 17 Ram recalls?

I meant Kia Hyndai four cylinder engines. You haven't seen all the recalls for them seizing and catching fire?

Kia Hyunda Engines Catch Fire
philh
Explorer II
May 29, 2019
TurnThePage wrote:
The glee some people find in degrading others... :R

I also kind of thought FCA and Hyundai/Kia would be mutually complementary. The entire automotive industry is pretty darned interesting these days.

Been in the industry for a few decades... It's always been interesting :)
TurnThePage
Explorer
May 29, 2019
The glee some people find in degrading others... :R

I also kind of thought FCA and Hyundai/Kia would be mutually complementary. The entire automotive industry is pretty darned interesting these days.
soren
Explorer
May 29, 2019
travelnutz wrote:
Perfect fit! A loser and a loser unite to make both be bigger losers. Then they will both disappear and life will still go on and for the better.

Total sales of 8.7 MILLION vehicles last year, would be the third largest vehicle manufacturer on earth the day they complete the deal. I guess we all have different definitions of "loser". The finance press is stating that Nissan is pretty well aware that they have to swallow their pride, and jump on the Renault/FCA coattails, or risk being too small to survive.
shum02
Explorer
May 29, 2019
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Let's not forget these.

That's an International Harvester 6.4L engine but thanks for digging up 10YO ancient history.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
May 29, 2019
Let's not forget these.
BillyBob_Jim
Explorer
May 29, 2019
wilber1 wrote:
BillyBob Jim wrote:
Lessmore wrote:

Maybe Kia/Hyundai would be more of a fit with FCA.

Why would they want to associate themselves with FCA? Kia/Hyundai produces vehicles that are much higher quality than anything FCA has ever produced, or will ever produce. Too bad they don't make trucks.

Except for their 4 cyl engines catching fire.

Yes, except for that and the fact they dont have to check drag links and weld them lol. Forget about the 17 Ram recalls?
philh
Explorer II
May 29, 2019
BillyBob Jim wrote:
Lessmore wrote:

Maybe Kia/Hyundai would be more of a fit with FCA.

Why would they want to associate themselves with FCA? Kia/Hyundai produces vehicles that are much higher quality than anything FCA has ever produced, or will ever produce. Too bad they don't make trucks.

Kia's JD Power quality numbers are some of the best in the industry.

FCA are some of the worst.

Engine fire issues will show up in quality numbers, but they seem to really be on top of fixing issues.
wilber1
Explorer
May 28, 2019
BillyBob Jim wrote:
Lessmore wrote:

Maybe Kia/Hyundai would be more of a fit with FCA.

Why would they want to associate themselves with FCA? Kia/Hyundai produces vehicles that are much higher quality than anything FCA has ever produced, or will ever produce. Too bad they don't make trucks.

Except for their 4 cyl engines catching fire.
wilber1
Explorer
May 28, 2019
The US market is trucks and SUV's. I don't think the US market is a big motivator for this merge. This is about Europe and Asia who's combined market is well over double the US.