FCA under investigation

JALLEN4 wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
So we have one poster with a ram in his sig and the FCA truck guys circling the wagons fast? You funny. I talked with the owner of the dealership I go to and he said that it's just a dealer disgruntled about something FCA did.

As for the DOJ finding any facts LOL they couldn't find their ASS with both hands and a road map!

Don

The dealer you spoke with may or may not have a clue and may or may not be interested in being quoted by a random FCA employee. Considering that the FBI is involved and has already conducted raids at FCA employee locations, one would think it might be a little more than some "disgruntled" dealer.

And why would someone take the words of an uninvolved party and assume they are privy to any facts of the case? Here are some scenarios about this dealer that seems to know all the facts:

1. They took the bribe and have a vested interest in this going away.
2. They didn't take the bribe but need FCA to survive so have a vested interest.
3. They think they are smarter than everyone else so qualified to speak on something without facts.
4. If they actually have facts or are involved it is a very poor decision to be discussing a case that may very well involve them.
5. They are just guessing but want to be part of the action.

Don't worry, the FBI is on the case. They did such a wonderful job with the Hillary Clinton investigation, I am certain they will come to an expedient and lawful conclusion here...

I'll be honest, I could really not care less about this. I bought my Ram because it was the best for me at the time and price point. I don't care if Ram sells the most HD trucks or the least. I don't drive a Ram because you, or anyone else does.

I don't have a financial stake in anything here. I don't own Ford, GM or FCA stock so I don't worry about sales numbers, advertising, profits, etc.

If they did something wrong, they deserve to get punished. If they did nothing wrong, hopefully they DON'T get punished (Looking at the NHTSA "Runaway Toyota" sham investigation that concluded DRIVER ERROR but still compelled Toyota to spend millions of dollars to add an additional dummy check to the accelerator...)

I think there's enough dummies involved already

spoon059 wrote:
Don't worry, the FBI is on the case. They did such a wonderful job with the Hillary Clinton investigation, I am certain they will come to an expedient and lawful conclusion here...

I'll be honest, I could really not care less about this. I bought my Ram because it was the best for me at the time and price point. I don't care if Ram sells the most HD trucks or the least. I don't drive a Ram because you, or anyone else does.

I don't have a financial stake in anything here. I don't own Ford, GM or FCA stock so I don't worry about sales numbers, advertising, profits, etc.

If they did something wrong, they deserve to get punished. If they did nothing wrong, hopefully they DON'T get punished (Looking at the NHTSA "Runaway Toyota" sham investigation that concluded DRIVER ERROR but still compelled Toyota to spend millions of dollars to add an additional dummy check to the accelerator...)

Yet you care enough to reply to this thread.

FishOnOne wrote:
Yet you care enough to reply to this thread.

Oh... look who shows up inexplicably in a Ram thread... I'm stunned. To answer your trolling, I don't care about the investigation. That does not mean that I do not care about the topic of the thread. What does your cousin's sisters, uncles brother-in-laws, nephew think about this twist in FCA?

spoon059 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Yet you care enough to reply to this thread.

Oh... look who shows up inexplicably in a Ram thread... I'm stunned. To answer your trolling, I don't care about the investigation. That does not mean that I do not care about the topic of the thread. What does your cousin's sisters, uncles brother-in-laws, nephew think about this twist in FCA?

My comment was directed to you and not fca.

spoon059 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
Yet you care enough to reply to this thread.

Oh... look who shows up inexplicably in a Ram thread... I'm stunned. To answer your trolling, I don't care about the investigation. That does not mean that I do not care about the topic of the thread. What does your cousin's sisters, uncles brother-in-laws, nephew think about this twist in FCA?

To be fair he did wait till the 3rd page! I thought maybe he was helping with the investigation?!!!

FishOnOne wrote:
My comment was directed to you and not fca.

sigh... have a good night Troy...

mich800 wrote:

And why would someone take the words of an uninvolved party and assume they are privy to any facts of the case? Here are some scenarios about this dealer that seems to know all the facts:

1. They took the bribe and have a vested interest in this going away.
2. They didn't take the bribe but need FCA to survive so have a vested interest.
3. They think they are smarter than everyone else so qualified to speak on something without facts.
4. If they actually have facts or are involved it is a very poor decision to be discussing a case that may very well involve them.
5. They are just guessing but want to be part of the action.

Dude where in this statement did I say what he said are the FACTS? " I talked with the owner of the dealership I go to and he said that it's just a dealer disgruntled about something FCA did."

This is his opinion and being a long time dealer they all know each other and go to the dealer meetings! As a small time dealer I'm 100% sure it is #2 in your list, just like most other dealers.

Funny JALLEN4 posted this about the dealer, "Napleton likes to keep his lawyers busy. He's also suing Volkswagen over the diesel scandal and sued Jaguar Land Rover over right of first refusal. At least the legal community will profit! " then this "Nope. If FCA did something wrong, they should be held accountable. But like a divorce, there's his side, her side, and the truth. We'll just have to wait and see what comes out of it."

I agree 100% with his last statement and if FCA is cooking the books then whoever is involved needs to be fired. But since nothing ever happens to the big boys and girls at the top (think GM and ignition switch here) it is all a big joke.

Don

As far as a dealer over charging you, did you get a quote on that $184 oil change and $136 fuel filter :E ? Not sure how a fuel filter on a 5.9 could cost that much, my 04 it took about 15 minutes to change out the factory filter. They didn't over charge you for the labor @ 0.5 hours but the factory filter for a 5.9 should be around $38 last time I bought one. But that was about six years ago.

Don