Doesn't look good for those of us who like diesels. Sounds like the pollution controls are killing it. Article

My DEF Diesel is supposed to have near zero emissions??

Have to agree the need for diesels is less and less every decade. Gas engine technology (like the EcoBoost from Ford) is making diesel less relevant, and the emissions choking that regulators are putting on diesel engines makes them less and less efficient, and extremely costly to produce and repair. As an example, I bought 6 new Bosch injectors for my then 2002 Dodge/Cummins 5.9L for $300. That's $50 each for NEW injectors. Today, one new injector can cost 20x that ($1000). I would not want to have to foot the repair bill for fixing a 2015+ diesel today. Look at the Ford guys (very few admittedly, but the point is the cost) who had to shell out $18,000 for a new fuel system when the CP4 ate itself. That's one of the primary reasons I went withj the 6.4L Hemi last time I bought new. Does a diesel tow a heavy load easier and with better mpg? Yes, absolutely.But, I could probably buy two or three new 6.4L Hemis for the cost of a Ford 6.7L fuel system.Add to that the fact that DPF theft is an issue where I live. Thieves prowl around in stolen trucks with cordless sawzalls. The like lifted diesels as they have easy access. Police reports I have read state replacing the hacked exhaust system and DPF is around $10,000 here in Canada.Just not worth it unless you tow 80% of the time for work or play. Better off to buy a gas engine IMO.

Dang! Just when the diesel Jeep Wrangler is coming out.....well whatever, I don't worry about speculation much. But if it's true, should probably go snatch up a few Eco diesels and moth ball them for a couple years! Sounds like a solid investment.

Isn't Chevy betting on diesels...cars and trucks?

FCA(Marchionne) says diesel is dead | Good Sam Community

drsteve
Explorer
Apr 14, 2018
Ductape wrote:
As a CEO, he's a fool to disparage the future of one of their most profitable product lines.

As a CEO, he also has far more information than any of us.
Ductape
Explorer
Apr 14, 2018
As a CEO, he's a fool to disparage the future of one of their most profitable product lines.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Apr 14, 2018
Me Again wrote:
The next Cummins version in a RAM truck is going to have all emission stuff post engine. This engine will be in the 2020 trucks or maybe a little earlier.

True DAT, I spoke to a Lady at the Cummins plant that was working on the project in 2016. She had the "Cat that ate the Canary" look on her face when she spoke to me about it! She said it was to debut in the 2019 model year. This would align with the Cummins 100 year anniversary and the 30 year Cummins/RAM relationship.
Fordlover
Explorer
Apr 14, 2018
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Johno02 wrote:
Plus lots higher maintenance costs.

My diesel never was higher in maintenance costs than my gas trucks.

To be fair, the newest breed of Diesel is a far cry from the good old simple Diesel engine. It's incredibly difficult to go out and buy a new pre-emissions Diesel 1 ton these days in the States.
ScottG
Nomad
Apr 14, 2018
Me Again wrote:
The next Cummins version in a RAM truck is going to have all emission stuff post engine. This engine will be in the 2020 trucks or maybe a little earlier.

I'm looking forward to seeing how that works out.
Myself, I really want a new diesel truck but I have to make too many super short trips that would be a nightmare with DPF equipment.
Me_Again
Explorer III
Apr 14, 2018
The next Cummins version in a RAM truck is going to have all emission stuff post engine. This engine will be in the 2020 trucks or maybe a little earlier.
Engineer9860
Explorer
Apr 14, 2018
Diesel emission controls are a nightmare.

With EGR the new engines will never last as long as their predecessors.

If you want to investigate a nightmare look into the Navistar Maxxforce 13 engine debacle. Right now you can buy 2012 International Prostar trucks with 270,000~350,000mi for $17,000.00. Trucks that just 6 years ago sold for $140,000 new. Many fleets almost went bankrupt due to early emissions.

It’s better now but still not ideal. And it will require different technology than currently available to get back to the reliability of pre 2007 or for that matter, the pre-EGR days of 2001.
Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Apr 14, 2018
Johno02 wrote:
Plus lots higher maintenance costs.

My diesel never was higher in maintenance costs than my gas trucks.
rexlion
Explorer
Apr 14, 2018
djousma wrote:
It's just one guys opinion. Heck, I just came back from a week in Honduras, and almost every vehicle there was a diesel. My rental, a Chevy Captiva had a peppy little diesel in it too.

I suspect there are either lax or no emission standards on diesels in Honduras, thus the diesel engine is still practical. Here in NA with all the junk they have to throw on there to meet standards, it's far less practical.
Johno02
Explorer
Apr 14, 2018
Plus lots higher maintenance costs.