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adamis
Nomad II
Feb 19, 2023

Finally Common Sense in California (No Shows at Campgrounds)

We've all experience rhe phenomena of trying to get reservations at an extremely busy campground. Trying multiple different dates and lengths in the reservation system only to be told the campground is full by the system. You keep checking back constantly and manage to find a site that opens up at the last minute and you rush to grab it and feel quite fortunate. When you roll into the campground you check in and feel quite good that your persistence paid off to get that one lucky spot. Then, you drive around the campground headed to your spot and notice several empty sites on the way. No worries you think, those people just haven't arrived yet, they will fill up. You keep an eye on those sites as you enjoy your trip and the day you pack up you note that many of those sites stayed open even though there where reservation tags on them. Yup... No shows...

Now, most of us truck camper folks like going off grid anyway to avoid the crowds. Even with our preference to avoid the crowds, there are still times when we need to use regular campgrounds from time to time. I've had several times where plans changed and I am trying find a campground with space, only to be told there is no space available. Knowing full well that a good percentage of people are going to be no shows but I am being turned away anyway.

Someone in the California legislature has noticed this as well and proposed a bill to penalize these no show folks. This is great news for the system! There is a commitment problem within society where people just don't keep their commitments any longer. This won't solve that problem but it will ar least penalize some of them who take advantage of a lenient system at the expense of others.

https://www.rvtravel.com/finally-penalizing-shows-california-1092b/
  • I hope the no-show fees are hefty; maybe a couple of hundred dollars. I also hope other states will catch on and force people to quit gaming the system to the detriment of us that keep their commitments and follow through with a reservation. There are families that don't go camping because they can't get a reservation into an empty campground.
  • The unfortunate part of most reservation systems -- even if you want an open site for one night while traveling, the reservation fee still applies. That means the campsite is more expensive overall and often leaves one or more empty that would otherwise generate revenue.

    We've seen a lot of empty campsites - state and NPS - over the past few years even when the CG says full.

    When we think about senior and veteran and disabled discounts, then paying the reservation fee for one night nearly clears the discount for those that earned or qualify for the discounts.
  • What we are discovering is that many Campgrounds from various states use a reservation website either their own or other, to offload the needs for the CG admin. No answering phones etc.

    In turn the states and local county campgrounds have to reserve XX number of sites for that website reservation website.... So even if there are no one reserving from those websites reserved sites they will remain empty!

    You can not just arrive at them and get an empty site.. SUCKS!

    Jim