I just finished reading all 54 TC forum pages and most of the individual thread. My three key takeaways;1) No such thing as too much truck.2) A lot of TC trucks are over loaded.3) TC dealers lie about actual dry weight.I'm casually looking for a used Lance 992 as I like the floor layout with the two slides. I stepped up and bought a 2019 Silverado 3500HD DRW High Country so I'm guessing I won't run out of truck going forward. Also om my list is a KTM Enduro dirt bike that is street legal to drag behind me.My goal is to put all this together over the next couple years than take off on short and long trips. Guessing long trips will be 60 - 90 days during the winter months out in the South West.I'm 60 and grew up lake camping in tents than moved on to trailers and along the way full timed for short periods in a couple Class A. Looking forward to a TC going forward. Really want to explore the South/Mid West before I depart this world.Dennis

I don't think the TC dealers necessarily lie, but they have NO IDEA what the dry weights are.Though I am new to TCs, it seems that it is, traditionally, almost an expectation that a TC will be an overload situation. At least, the industry seems to have a very lax attitude about it. TCM is very upfront about the need to match a TC and truck, but the data is hard to come by.My dealer just said I needed a long bed dually ... in reality, I needed a 3500 2WD gasser long bed dually, with a standard cab - likely without a radio ;) - to have enough payload for my Host Mammoth.

You need to read the archives. ;)You may or may not run out of truck in the future. It depends on what TC and what you will be towing next.As far as being overweight with a Mammoth is concerned. It depends on what you plan to bring and how it is optioned.

tlowe43q wrote:I don't think the TC dealers necessarily lie, but they have NO IDEA what the dry weights are.Though I am new to TCs, it seems that it is, traditionally, almost an expectation that a TC will be an overload situation. At least, the industry seems to have a very lax attitude about it. TCM is very upfront about the need to match a TC and truck, but the data is hard to come by.My dealer just said I needed a long bed dually ... in reality, I needed a 3500 2WD gasser long bed dually, with a standard cab - likely without a radio ;) - to have enough payload for my Host Mammoth.Nah, my TC dealer (manufacturer) weighs them. Fact.

Ultimately I think it works both ways. The camper manufacturers lie about the dry weight of their products and truck manufacturers are in a seemingly constant competition with each other with regards to payload.IDK but when I went to school 1Ton = 2000lbs. Considering that just about all truck campers (other than popups) weigh in dry at least a TON a 1Ton truck would be the minimum recommended to haul a TC.My Northern Lite weighs in @~4000lbs WET and ready for camping so in reality (or according to the weight designation of modern trucks) I would really need a 2TON truck to haul it around on but silly me I carry it on a 3/4Ton truck.While there are those that are not "overloaded", they are few and far between.BTW: what is a 3Ton designation? 7500? (6000lbs camper)

Set of scales is a cheap investment for a dealer to verify dry weight so no need to rely on vendor swag numbers. I also agree the whole modern day truck payload, trailing weight thing is just a play on numbers like they did back in the 70's with muscle car horsepower.

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Geewizard
Explorer
Dec 10, 2018
tlowe43q wrote:
I don't think the TC dealers necessarily lie, but they have NO IDEA what the dry weights are.

Though I am new to TCs, it seems that it is, traditionally, almost an expectation that a TC will be an overload situation. At least, the industry seems to have a very lax attitude about it. TCM is very upfront about the need to match a TC and truck, but the data is hard to come by.

My dealer just said I needed a long bed dually ... in reality, I needed a 3500 2WD gasser long bed dually, with a standard cab - likely without a radio ;) - to have enough payload for my Host Mammoth.

Nah, my TC dealer (manufacturer) weighs them. Fact.
jimh406
Explorer III
Dec 10, 2018
You need to read the archives. ;)

You may or may not run out of truck in the future. It depends on what TC and what you will be towing next.

As far as being overweight with a Mammoth is concerned. It depends on what you plan to bring and how it is optioned.
tlowe43q
Explorer
Dec 10, 2018
I don't think the TC dealers necessarily lie, but they have NO IDEA what the dry weights are.

Though I am new to TCs, it seems that it is, traditionally, almost an expectation that a TC will be an overload situation. At least, the industry seems to have a very lax attitude about it. TCM is very upfront about the need to match a TC and truck, but the data is hard to come by.

My dealer just said I needed a long bed dually ... in reality, I needed a 3500 2WD gasser long bed dually, with a standard cab - likely without a radio ;) - to have enough payload for my Host Mammoth.

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