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Although it was only about 25 miles, it included hills (up and down), curves at freeway speeds, and a bit of breezy weather.
This hitch is simply amazing. After all I read and watched about it, I tried to not let myself develop expectations that were too high. Needless to say, my expectations SHOULD have been high! Although, they would have been exceeded anyway. There was ZERO feeling of movement from the rear of the TV. With our rear kitchen, long trailer, this hitch should be a requirement for smooth, stress-free towing.
We've got the hitching process down pretty well, but unhitching is a steeper learning curve and takes a bit more time. Any tips on that would be appreciated. I can't imagine that anyone's powder coating on the inserted end of the stinger lasts long. lol Thanks!","body@stringLength":"879","rawBody":"So we just made our first drive with the ProPride hitch. Although it was only about 25 miles, it included hills (up and down), curves at freeway speeds, and a bit of breezy weather.
This hitch is simply amazing. After all I read and watched about it, I tried to not let myself develop expectations that were too high. Needless to say, my expectations SHOULD have been high! Although, they would have been exceeded anyway. There was ZERO feeling of movement from the rear of the TV. With our rear kitchen, long trailer, this hitch should be a requirement for smooth, stress-free towing.
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
No, you are not missing something. A majorly bent strut will cause severe \"swivel\" of the assembly on the TT ball and probably feels immediately undrivable. Or does it? What was your experience?
A slightly bent bar may not be immediately noticed without visually checking, and will allow the surprise \"bump\", since it means the strut is no longer tightly extended until it is screwed (adjusted, extended) snug again. The actual \"bump\" does not seem to occur unless one makes a turn (or an S turn) under braking. Because of the mechanical link advantage (like the greater travel of the long side of a lever compared to the short side), any minute slack already allows the arms to pivot an inch or two, from one side to the other, much further than the tiny slack-length of the loose strut. The arms do just that, swivel from one side to the other during the turn and stop with an over-center-feeling cushioned crunch... the \"bump\".
As an example, any Hensley owner could artificially induce the \"bump\" by loosening a strut about 1/16 or 1/8 inch. Then drive slowly (5-10 mph) in a safe area and perform an \"S\" curve while braking. The operator will get the \"bump\" and thereafter be experienced in the feeling. I don't seriously advocate this unless there is reason to demonstrate it for interested bystanders (If the \"bump\" ever does naturally occur, it is disconcerting and quite obvious what it is to the owner). Technically the \"bump\" cannot occur unless something is loose, the \"dip-angle\" has drastically changed, the receiver is loose-fitting, or mounted quite springy. Neither of my truck receivers (Excursion, F-250) allow it if all else is tight.
What bent your strut, if I may ask? I have inadvertently stressed the struts enough to barely loosen the brackets by turning too sharp, and wonder if that is a likely cause of the struts to bend.
EDIT: I see most of my questions have been answered while I typed.
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
No, you are not missing something. A majorly bent strut will cause severe \"swivel\" of the assembly on the TT ball and probably feels immediately undrivable. Or does it? What was your experience?
A slightly bent bar may not be immediately noticed without visually checking, and will allow the surprise \"bump\", since it means the strut is no longer tightly extended until it is screwed (adjusted, extended) snug again. The actual \"bump\" does not seem to occur unless one makes a turn (or an S turn) under braking. Because of the mechanical link advantage (like the greater travel of the long side of a lever compared to the short side), any minute slack already allows the arms to pivot an inch or two, from one side to the other, much further than the tiny slack-length of the loose strut. The arms do just that, swivel from one side to the other during the turn and stop with an over-center-feeling cushioned crunch... the \"bump\".
As an example, any Hensley owner could artificially induce the \"bump\" by loosening a strut about 1/16 or 1/8 inch. Then drive slowly (5-10 mph) in a safe area and perform an \"S\" curve while braking. The operator will get the \"bump\" and thereafter be experienced in the feeling. I don't seriously advocate this unless there is reason to demonstrate it for interested bystanders (If the \"bump\" ever does naturally occur, it is disconcerting and quite obvious what it is to the owner). Technically the \"bump\" cannot occur unless something is loose, the \"dip-angle\" has drastically changed, the receiver is loose-fitting, or mounted quite springy. Neither of my truck receivers (Excursion, F-250) allow it if all else is tight.
What bent your strut, if I may ask? I have inadvertently stressed the struts enough to barely loosen the brackets by turning too sharp, and wonder if that is a likely cause of the struts to bend.
EDIT: I see most of my questions have been answered while I typed.
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BurbMan wrote: Hey GAZZER, sorry I forgot the :B in my last post...no panties twisted here and always smiling :B, sorry if you thought otherwise!
All is Good BurbMan, Cheers! :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"184","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-25T06:20:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-25T06:20:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":323},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211124","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"219","rawBody":"
BurbMan wrote: Hey GAZZER, sorry I forgot the :B in my last post...no panties twisted here and always smiling :B, sorry if you thought otherwise!
All is Good BurbMan, Cheers! :)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211124_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:45007":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:45007","uid":45007,"login":"93Cobra2771","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-06-09T08:22:36.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:45007"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211123":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211123","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211123":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:45007"},"id":"message:1211123","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211123,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211123"},"body":"
CarnationSailor wrote:
hddecker wrote:
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
How did you bend a strut bar? Did you have to try real hard? ;)
There are two ways to bend a strut bar:
1. Turn too sharply and put the linkage in a bind. 2. Allow one or both of the bars to get loose. Hitch head will start flopping around and something gives, eventually.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-25T05:34:40.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-25T05:34:40.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":323},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211123","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1923","rawBody":"
CarnationSailor wrote:
hddecker wrote:
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
How did you bend a strut bar? Did you have to try real hard? ;)
There are two ways to bend a strut bar:
1. Turn too sharply and put the linkage in a bind. 2. Allow one or both of the bars to get loose. Hitch head will start flopping around and something gives, eventually.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211123_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:345793":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:345793","uid":345793,"login":"BurbMan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2001-09-20T14:30:55.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:345793"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211122":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211122","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211122":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:345793"},"id":"message:1211122","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211122,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211122"},"body":"The \"bump\" refers to braking. With these hitches, you need to set the trailer brakes to lead the truck brakes, ie., come on slightly ahead. If the truck slows before the trailer, the linkage of the hitch allows the TT to come forward on the cams and \"bump\" the truck as the cams hit their travel stops. If you've never felt it then you have your brake controller set right.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-25T04:45:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-25T04:45:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":323},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211122","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"376","rawBody":"The \"bump\" refers to braking. With these hitches, you need to set the trailer brakes to lead the truck brakes, ie., come on slightly ahead. If the truck slows before the trailer, the linkage of the hitch allows the TT to come forward on the cams and \"bump\" the truck as the cams hit their travel stops. If you've never felt it then you have your brake controller set right.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211122_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:124663":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:124663","uid":124663,"login":"hddecker","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-07-06T09:34:40.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-1.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:124663"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211121":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211121","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211121":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:124663"},"id":"message:1211121","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211121,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211121"},"body":"
CarnationSailor wrote:
hddecker wrote:
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
How did you bend a strut bar? Did you have to try real hard? ;)
I didn't have to try at all.
I have no idea how I did it, I left the campground in the morning never felt a thing until I' getting to a stop light and the TT did a little dance while I was braking and the big bang.
Hensley never questioned it they had a new strut bar to me in a matter of a couple of days. All it cost me was the shipping.
I also managed to knock the zerks off the spring bar mounts, that one I know how I managed to knock them off. I didn't pay attention to where I was shoving the dog crates, again just paid the shipping and new zerks were on the way. It sure was tough having to wait over the weekend in Frankfort KY, spent the whole weekend looking for that Bourbon Trail, so many Bourbons, so little time.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-24T21:15:25.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-24T21:15:25.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":322},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211121","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"2460","rawBody":"
CarnationSailor wrote:
hddecker wrote:
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
How did you bend a strut bar? Did you have to try real hard? ;)
I didn't have to try at all.
I have no idea how I did it, I left the campground in the morning never felt a thing until I' getting to a stop light and the TT did a little dance while I was braking and the big bang.
Hensley never questioned it they had a new strut bar to me in a matter of a couple of days. All it cost me was the shipping.
I also managed to knock the zerks off the spring bar mounts, that one I know how I managed to knock them off. I didn't pay attention to where I was shoving the dog crates, again just paid the shipping and new zerks were on the way. It sure was tough having to wait over the weekend in Frankfort KY, spent the whole weekend looking for that Bourbon Trail, so many Bourbons, so little time.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211121_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:39":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:39","position":29,"name":"Nomad","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:1490":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1490","uid":1490,"login":"CarnationSailor","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-12-21T07:53:37.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1490"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211120":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211120","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211120":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1490"},"id":"message:1211120","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211120,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211120"},"body":"
hddecker wrote:
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
How did you bend a strut bar? Did you have to try real hard? ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-24T17:50:47.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-24T17:50:47.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":322},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211120","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1634","rawBody":"
hddecker wrote:
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.
How did you bend a strut bar? Did you have to try real hard? ;)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211120_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211119":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211119","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211119":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:124663"},"id":"message:1211119","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211119,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211119"},"body":"
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-24T17:33:28.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-24T17:33:28.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":322},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211119","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1513","rawBody":"
93Cobra2771 wrote: Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.
Am I missing something, I paid good money for my Hensley and I don't get a bump.
I did manage to bend a strut bar once and that caused a lot more than a bump. I check my strut bars at every stop and if there is the least bit of wiggle, I give the adjuster a quarter turn and no wiggle.
I have leaned the rear bumper right up against the A-frame and have never felt anything out of the ordinary.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211119_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211118":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211118","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211118":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:45007"},"id":"message:1211118","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211118,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211118"},"body":"Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-24T06:01:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-24T06:01:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":323},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211118","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1035","rawBody":"Wes - I'm glad you remembered to check, as I 100% totally forgot to. And yes, it was the foot that was the issue.
I too, had an issue where I was at a fairly extreme angle, and where I had backed up the hitch head had shifted to one side. I ended up pulling the pin on the foot, dropping the jack, then putting the foot back on. This was on my old manual tongue jack.
The new jack has a round foot and doesn't go up as high as the old one. Just high enough to catch the WD bars.
Regarding the bump - I have felt it. I think it is more easily felt with 1/2 ton trucks and heavier TT combos. I can also feel the hitch head swing from side to side in the case of a slow \"S\" turn. Part of the route on our regular campground is through the Smoky Mountains, and the road has quite a few low speed turns as well as off throttle coasting. If you aren't on your brakes, you will feel the bump as the HH head pivots to one side or the other. You can trail brake lightly with your controller and it won't happen.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211118_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211117":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211117","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211117":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:345793"},"id":"message:1211117","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211117,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211117"},"body":"Hey GAZZER, sorry I forgot the :B in my last post...no panties twisted here and always smiling :B, sorry if you thought otherwise!
SPRINKLERMAN, with tires at 15 psi for both truck and trailer and truck in 4LO, trailer moves a lot easier than you would think. Backing into the site is the worst part, you can see the slope of the dune from how the trailer is sited.
This was my biggest concern in buying the Hensley, ability to hitch up on the beach. I don't have the time that Wes does to swap out the hitch for local vs road travel so the HA stays on all the time.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-24T05:03:41.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-24T05:03:41.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":323},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1211060/message:1211117","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"590","rawBody":"Hey GAZZER, sorry I forgot the :B in my last post...no panties twisted here and always smiling :B, sorry if you thought otherwise!
SPRINKLERMAN, with tires at 15 psi for both truck and trailer and truck in 4LO, trailer moves a lot easier than you would think. Backing into the site is the worst part, you can see the slope of the dune from how the trailer is sited.
This was my biggest concern in buying the Hensley, ability to hitch up on the beach. I don't have the time that Wes does to swap out the hitch for local vs road travel so the HA stays on all the time.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1211117_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211116":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1211116","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1211116":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:88040"},"id":"message:1211116","revisionNum":1,"uid":1211116,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1211060"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1211060"},"subject":"Re: First Time with ProPride","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1211116"},"body":"
93Cobra2771 wrote:
Wes Tausend wrote: ...
*snip I would recommend against leaving the jack foot down below the WD bars on a Hensley. The Hensley hitch is capable of turning so sharp (I'm not sure about the Pro-Pride), that under some tight-turn conditions a bar will side-swipe the jack shaft and cause a severe bind. Keeping the foot up and clear and, if necessary, straightening the hitch head by straightening out the rig angle is the preferred method to be able to lower the jack for parking. The Hensley can turn significantly sharper than standard hitches because the extra stinger length provides extra clearance so that the truck bumper does not strike the A-framed TT tongue so far back where it is still wide. A Hensley is about one foot longer than a standard hitch, and in my case as an advantage, allows my tailgate to drop fully down clear. I can't say that about the new Eaz-Lift I bought (The tailgate hits my power jack head just past half open).
These ingenious 4-Link Hensley designed hitches do exactly as they state. They provide a sway-free, safe towing experience, even in extreme adverse conditions, and no other TT hitch type (other than a Pull-Rite) can perform as well. That is why I am keeping mine, even if I don't use it all the time. I do a lot of local camping where I don't need an anti-sway \"highway\" hitch.
Wes ...
In my case, I have no choice. My OEM hitch foot will not go high enough to clear the WD bars. The Foot was JUST high enough that it actually caught on the bar once while turning, which is how I discovered the issue.
I have towed over 3000 miles with the current combo, and had no interference issue with the jack shaft. Doesn't mean it can't happen, I just know it hasn't so far. I'll try to remember this evening to pivot the head to it's max turning point and see if interference can, indeed, occur. If so, I'm not sure what I can do.
I suspect that the top links on the hitch (strut bars) will bind before the head can rotate past that center point, but I won't know until I test at home. Should be easy enough to do while unhooked and tongue jack all the way down.
Richard,
I'm going to have to eat my previous words here. I got back from camping, read this, and did the experiment you suggested. With my truck disconnected and the tongue-jack post down to unhitch, I hand-operated the Hensley lock-to-lock. Everything cleared just fine.
Out on my level street, the Hensley turned both ways about 87 degrees (just short of 90) until the 4-bar linkage crank arms hit either internal stop welded onto the bottom pivoting head. At no time did the WD bars come too close, or hit the jack.
I did have a problem with post clearance in the past, but thinking back, I had just parked in my driveway with the truck turned sharply at an extreme tilt angle up a sidehill. Consequently I couldn't drop my tongue jack, because the jack-post itself would have hit the highly angled WD bars from the top in that twisted configuration. But the reason likely was that the entire hitch-head was significantly tilted, which swung the entire Hensley assembly under the TT ball to one side, including the bars. It was too much to maintain clearance. Had I driven the rig with the jack-post not fully retracted, the bars would have hit right in my driveway. So, especially in my case, I am better off with the jack-post fully retracted. This type interference will not be a problem except at extreme angles, off-road perhaps.
I also think I misunderstood what you said earlier. Your \"wide\" jack foot was accidently height-aligned with the WD bars and did not clear their swing. I mistook your statement to mean the jack-post and bars collided.
I took my jack foot off some time ago, so that I can use this Hitch Helper: . . . Using the Helper, it is easiest to set the Helper under the post and just let the post loosely bed itself in the Helper cup as it extends. The Hitch Helper allows the truck to be up to a couple/three inches to either side of center and still align the Stinger parallel in the Y-axis by turning the screwshaft. It can be handy, but I only need it on occasion. Without a permanently mounted foot, my post always retracts fully above the bars.
On a different tack, I did take a closer look at the struts again, and the front pins do theoretically loosen slightly when the hitch-head is tilted up or down (X-axis) away from level (such as a dip). The reasoning for the slack is that the front strut pins aren't quite dead center on the pivoting of the ball centerline, but slightly behind it. However, this will not cause any instability at speed, unless the rig is speeding around like a motocross bike continuously looping inside a circus ball (permanent dip). On level, straight highway, the struts stay tight, yet allow the rig to traverse a \"dip\" without binding.
The slightest slack causes a rendition of the \"Hensley Bump\", but carefully watching of the struts and good, tight brackets doesn't allow slack. I suspect that a slightly loose fitting, or loosely-bolted, receiver may occasionally allow some minute stinger play, and that is where some folks experience \"bump\".
*snip I would recommend against leaving the jack foot down below the WD bars on a Hensley. The Hensley hitch is capable of turning so sharp (I'm not sure about the Pro-Pride), that under some tight-turn conditions a bar will side-swipe the jack shaft and cause a severe bind. Keeping the foot up and clear and, if necessary, straightening the hitch head by straightening out the rig angle is the preferred method to be able to lower the jack for parking. The Hensley can turn significantly sharper than standard hitches because the extra stinger length provides extra clearance so that the truck bumper does not strike the A-framed TT tongue so far back where it is still wide. A Hensley is about one foot longer than a standard hitch, and in my case as an advantage, allows my tailgate to drop fully down clear. I can't say that about the new Eaz-Lift I bought (The tailgate hits my power jack head just past half open).
These ingenious 4-Link Hensley designed hitches do exactly as they state. They provide a sway-free, safe towing experience, even in extreme adverse conditions, and no other TT hitch type (other than a Pull-Rite) can perform as well. That is why I am keeping mine, even if I don't use it all the time. I do a lot of local camping where I don't need an anti-sway \"highway\" hitch.
Wes ...
In my case, I have no choice. My OEM hitch foot will not go high enough to clear the WD bars. The Foot was JUST high enough that it actually caught on the bar once while turning, which is how I discovered the issue.
I have towed over 3000 miles with the current combo, and had no interference issue with the jack shaft. Doesn't mean it can't happen, I just know it hasn't so far. I'll try to remember this evening to pivot the head to it's max turning point and see if interference can, indeed, occur. If so, I'm not sure what I can do.
I suspect that the top links on the hitch (strut bars) will bind before the head can rotate past that center point, but I won't know until I test at home. Should be easy enough to do while unhooked and tongue jack all the way down.
Richard,
I'm going to have to eat my previous words here. I got back from camping, read this, and did the experiment you suggested. With my truck disconnected and the tongue-jack post down to unhitch, I hand-operated the Hensley lock-to-lock. Everything cleared just fine.
Out on my level street, the Hensley turned both ways about 87 degrees (just short of 90) until the 4-bar linkage crank arms hit either internal stop welded onto the bottom pivoting head. At no time did the WD bars come too close, or hit the jack.
I did have a problem with post clearance in the past, but thinking back, I had just parked in my driveway with the truck turned sharply at an extreme tilt angle up a sidehill. Consequently I couldn't drop my tongue jack, because the jack-post itself would have hit the highly angled WD bars from the top in that twisted configuration. But the reason likely was that the entire hitch-head was significantly tilted, which swung the entire Hensley assembly under the TT ball to one side, including the bars. It was too much to maintain clearance. Had I driven the rig with the jack-post not fully retracted, the bars would have hit right in my driveway. So, especially in my case, I am better off with the jack-post fully retracted. This type interference will not be a problem except at extreme angles, off-road perhaps.
I also think I misunderstood what you said earlier. Your \"wide\" jack foot was accidently height-aligned with the WD bars and did not clear their swing. I mistook your statement to mean the jack-post and bars collided.
I took my jack foot off some time ago, so that I can use this Hitch Helper: . . . Using the Helper, it is easiest to set the Helper under the post and just let the post loosely bed itself in the Helper cup as it extends. The Hitch Helper allows the truck to be up to a couple/three inches to either side of center and still align the Stinger parallel in the Y-axis by turning the screwshaft. It can be handy, but I only need it on occasion. Without a permanently mounted foot, my post always retracts fully above the bars.
On a different tack, I did take a closer look at the struts again, and the front pins do theoretically loosen slightly when the hitch-head is tilted up or down (X-axis) away from level (such as a dip). The reasoning for the slack is that the front strut pins aren't quite dead center on the pivoting of the ball centerline, but slightly behind it. However, this will not cause any instability at speed, unless the rig is speeding around like a motocross bike continuously looping inside a circus ball (permanent dip). On level, straight highway, the struts stay tight, yet allow the rig to traverse a \"dip\" without binding.
The slightest slack causes a rendition of the \"Hensley Bump\", but carefully watching of the struts and good, tight brackets doesn't allow slack. I suspect that a slightly loose fitting, or loosely-bolted, receiver may occasionally allow some minute stinger play, and that is where some folks experience \"bump\".
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