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DAGcamp
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Sep 17, 2016

Fix-er-Up Questions?

Some time ago my parents bought an old trailer, 16ft long. It was trashed and they never got to fixing it up.

I want to fix it up myself. And by fix it up, I mean completely gut the inside and rebuild everything. But I'm not sure where to start.

Trailer itself:

Floor is solid and in good condition. It's not soft anywhere. However I want to replace the flooring with something that looks better.

The windows have a bit of water damage and rotted wood. Not a lot. Very little. My palm could cover all the (apparent) water damage. How should I go about replacing/fixing that? It seemed pretty easy per youtube and Web tutorials but not sure which "method" is best.

I want to either repaint or put new wallpaper on the walls. Can I just pay someone to do that? Should I replace the walls first or leave them in tact? The trailer is so old that I'm really tempted to just replace all the insulation and walls/floor/ceiling, honestly.

The bathroom ceiling is missing. It's covered by the roof but all the insulation is gone too. So maybe there used to be water damage in there and previous owner never got to fixing it all the way. How should I got about fixing that? From what I've seen its just, remove water damaged insulation and wood, then replace with new insulation and wood. Is that right?

Electricity:

It's 30 amp. I want to upgrade it to 50 amp, first of all.

All of the outlets in the camper work. Yay! However none of the appliances work. Fridge does not work, rooftop ac does not work. Lights do not work.

My big huge question about electricity is this: I don't want to mess with that myself - would it be better to rebuild it and then hire an electrician, or should electricity be the very first thing I do?

I would think the order would be, gut it, hire electrician, then put in insulation and walls/ceiling after that.

Plumbing: it's got a shower, toilet, sink. I want to change to a composting toilet so the fact that *there is no black tank, just a hole to the outside(!!!!)* doesn't bother me so much. However I don't know if the plumbing works in the sink and shower - I kind of doubt that it does. I would think that redoing the plumbing would be pretty straight forward, but should I pay a plumber to do that?

And here is my other big thing: all of the hookup places look like they are at death's door. I can't get the potable water thing to even open. How does one go about replacing these? I haven't been able to find any resources on that :/ but then, maybe I need to try harder.

I'm not in any rush to get this thing fixed up, but would like to have it done by late summer of next year. I'm fairly certain I can do everything except for the electricity.
  • Sounds like it might make a nice utility trailer. Strip to the frame, some sidewalls and a floor...carry your tent and other related camping gear.
  • Mark Polk ( rv101 ) did a video series on an older Yellowstone stick-n-tin travel trailer that he and his son rebuilt. I suggest this is a good series to watch and study for anyone contemplating such a project. Loads of practical advice and solutions in his presentation.
  • trail-explorer wrote:
    mikakuja wrote:
    Paying someone else to do the work is going to be really expensive..
    It would be much cheaper to buy one in good used condition.


    X eleventy-billion.

    Scrap and go buy a nice used one, rather than paying someone to rebuild this old junker.


    X eleventy-billion and one.
  • I restored a 22' trailer. The pictured thread is in my signature line, The Cowboy/Hilton. I did pretty much what you are planning. It was a very worthwhile project as I was able to incorporate some ideas that made the trailer as comfortable and efficient as I wanted.

    The recovery work with the framing was at about the level of someone that can build a half-way decent doghouse. I have been a carpenter for many years so that part of the restoration was painless.
    I'd suggest that you plan to remove the interior paneling to discover any water intrusion/frame repair. New Luan paneling is still rather inexpensive and will be a good surface for wall coverings or paint. I just applied a varnish finish on the paneling, it was part of my "bunkhouse design" criteria.

    I also upgraded the 120V service to 50amp service. There was nothing very good about the original 120V distribution and 50 amp was no cost penalty until you buy the larger shore cord and power inlet.

    I'd suggest you think about the waste tank situation. There are a lot of dump sites available and a new black tank (if necessary) will be cheaper than a composting toilet. There would be a durability advantage of replacing any water supply lines, I used PEX throughout.

    Good luck with your project and, if you have the ability, document it so other Forum members can benefit.
  • gmw photos wrote:
    Mark Polk ( rv101 ) did a video series on an older Yellowstone stick-n-tin travel trailer that he and his son rebuilt. I suggest this is a good series to watch and study for anyone contemplating such a project. Loads of practical advice and solutions in his presentation.

    X2, that series covers nearly everything.