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Gdetrailer
Apr 10, 2022Explorer III
Ran across an interesting video which helps explain some of the differences in EV vs ICE when it comes to distance and why EV isn't quite there for hard core heavy towing.
HERE (note: does have some shameless "commercial plugs" for some hair growth products you can FF over).
As of right now, Fords Lightning F150 EPA range without towing is 230 miles with standard battery and 300 miles with extended range battery. Those numbers come from EPA testing, do not include towing but do include 1,000 lbs "payload". Top speed during the testing is 60 MPH and combines with a lot of low speed stop and go traffic until the vehicle can no longer move (not exactly realistic expectation as one would hope drivers are smarter than allowing themselves to run out of charge in the middle of no where).
Towing a standard 7K lb or 10K lb trailer I suspect it would be very doubtful you would get even 100 miles per full charge with standard battery and maybe stretch it to 125 miles with extended range battery with the F150 Lightning..
The mathematical numbers in the video shows the main problem with EV is still the battery energy storage density and weight is not as good as liquid fuels and that is where there still needs a lot of improvement.
Even though ICE is technically less energy efficient, the biggest plus is the energy density of liquid fuels is very high per pound and size compared to Lithium batteries. Refueling liquid fuels to a 100% full tank is very quick (full range restored) compared to recharging a battery to 80%-90% (at a reduced range) takes more time to complete.
Batteries have improved and for general use can be useful but for myself, just not there yet.
HERE (note: does have some shameless "commercial plugs" for some hair growth products you can FF over).
As of right now, Fords Lightning F150 EPA range without towing is 230 miles with standard battery and 300 miles with extended range battery. Those numbers come from EPA testing, do not include towing but do include 1,000 lbs "payload". Top speed during the testing is 60 MPH and combines with a lot of low speed stop and go traffic until the vehicle can no longer move (not exactly realistic expectation as one would hope drivers are smarter than allowing themselves to run out of charge in the middle of no where).
Towing a standard 7K lb or 10K lb trailer I suspect it would be very doubtful you would get even 100 miles per full charge with standard battery and maybe stretch it to 125 miles with extended range battery with the F150 Lightning..
The mathematical numbers in the video shows the main problem with EV is still the battery energy storage density and weight is not as good as liquid fuels and that is where there still needs a lot of improvement.
Even though ICE is technically less energy efficient, the biggest plus is the energy density of liquid fuels is very high per pound and size compared to Lithium batteries. Refueling liquid fuels to a 100% full tank is very quick (full range restored) compared to recharging a battery to 80%-90% (at a reduced range) takes more time to complete.
Batteries have improved and for general use can be useful but for myself, just not there yet.
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