Ford 7.3L GASSER rumor confirmed

wing_zealot wrote:
Hate to keep calling you out, but your excuses don't work. Anything you can print you can put in pdf format. And I am sure you can print thousands of reports from the data. Or you can just quit making claims you can't back up.

The only thing I can print from SAP are individual service invoices. Do you want me to send you every individual service invoice for the past x years from every one of our 120+ dealerships so that you can input that data into BW/BEx analyzer to pull the info you need? I can probably put in Excel so you can pull the info from there, but that would be a massive file and would take more time then I am willing to spend for free.

Also, they are not claims. I assure you that the data is there if you want to pay for it. It is not my fault you don't have the tools to view it.

Hate to keep calling you out, but your excuses don't work. Anything you can print you can put in pdf format. And I am sure you can print thousands of reports from the data.
Or you can just quit making claims you can't back up; just like you eluded to above with Hannibal.
See you next time you come out with this seemingly bogus claim.

wing_zealot wrote:
Pdf's work; but alas, The Excuses continue.

Actually, you cannot put SAP BW/BEx analyzer info in PDF format. Especially service invoice records. It is not my fault you don't have the tools to view it or won't to spend the money on it.

Pdf's work; but alas, The Excuses continue.

wing_zealot wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:


Yeah, I would have to raise the BS flag on that too. I drove plenty of 5.4L SD's in the past as well and all of them would down shift to 2nd or 3rd at the sight of a hill when towing. They would get the load up the small hills, but it would be screamin' at 5,000 rpm doing 45 mph to get it there. I could just hum along at 1,700 rpm in 6th in my 6.7L CTD pulling the same weight up the same hill.

You're calling me a liar. I'm convinced you're a liar. I guess we'll just have to leave it at that.

Yes, I am calling you out for saying that your 5.4L only revs 30% more than my diesel pulling the same load BS. I have experience towing with 5.4L SD's and there is no way it will tow a 10k trailer up a hill at just 2,340 rpm which is 30% more than the 1,800 rpm my truck would do going 65 mph in 5th. Every 5.4L that I have driven would be screaming much higher than that at even the slightest of hill, and it you would consider yourself lucky if you were able to do the speed limit.

Hey, if we're calling people out I want to get in on the fun. I've been waiting for 6 months (See Here) to see this data you claim you have. You keep referring to the "data" you have; but you have thousands of excuses why you can't produce it. Time to produce it so it can be peer reviewed.

I can send it to you, but you will not be able to view it without SAP, Microsoft Access, and Tableau reader along with the correct login information.

ShinerBock wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:


Yeah, I would have to raise the BS flag on that too. I drove plenty of 5.4L SD's in the past as well and all of them would down shift to 2nd or 3rd at the sight of a hill when towing. They would get the load up the small hills, but it would be screamin' at 5,000 rpm doing 45 mph to get it there. I could just hum along at 1,700 rpm in 6th in my 6.7L CTD pulling the same weight up the same hill.

You're calling me a liar. I'm convinced you're a liar. I guess we'll just have to leave it at that.

Yes, I am calling you out for saying that your 5.4L only revs 30% more than my diesel pulling the same load BS. I have experience towing with 5.4L SD's and there is no way it will tow a 10k trailer up a hill at just 2,340 rpm which is 30% more than the 1,800 rpm my truck would do going 65 mph in 5th. Every 5.4L that I have driven would be screaming much higher than that at even the slightest of hill, and it you would consider yourself lucky if you were able to do the speed limit.

Hey, if we're calling people out I want to get in on the fun. I've been waiting for 6 months (See Here) to see this data you claim you have. You keep referring to the "data" you have; but you have thousands of excuses why you can't produce it. Time to produce it so it can be peer reviewed.

Hannibal wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:


Yeah, I would have to raise the BS flag on that too. I drove plenty of 5.4L SD's in the past as well and all of them would down shift to 2nd or 3rd at the sight of a hill when towing. They would get the load up the small hills, but it would be screamin' at 5,000 rpm doing 45 mph to get it there. I could just hum along at 1,700 rpm in 6th in my 6.7L CTD pulling the same weight up the same hill.

You're calling me a liar. I'm convinced you're a liar. I guess we'll just have to leave it at that.

Yes, I am calling you out for saying that your 5.4L only revs 30% more than my diesel pulling the same load BS. I have experience towing with 5.4L SD's and there is no way it will tow a 10k trailer up a hill at just 2,340 rpm which is 30% more than the 1,800 rpm my truck would do going 65 mph in 5th. Every 5.4L that I have driven would be screaming much higher than that at even the slightest of hill, and it you would consider yourself lucky if you were able to do the speed limit.

No way your truck will tow 10k lbs up a 6% grade 70mph at 1800rpm. You're still lying. Lol!

Yes, it will and has. Although I said 65 mph at 1,800 rpm, at 70 mph my rpm is closer to 1,950 rpm in 5th. You can YouTube it if you don't believe me. There are plenty of videos there. There is even a video of one towing 13,000 lbs up the Ike at over 9,000 ft above elevation in 4th gear at 2,350 rpm at 65 mph. I don't need that many revs for south Texas altitudes.

transamz9 wrote:
Shiner , he is comparing his 2010 truck to 7-10 year older trucks.Hes not posting about the present because he knows nothing about it. My 2016 makes as much or more power at 1600 as his does at 4200. :S

I traded my last Cummins Ram almost 14 years ago. I know plenty about the newer ones. Enough to know I have no desire or need for one.

ShinerBock wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

ShinerBock wrote:


Yeah, I would have to raise the BS flag on that too. I drove plenty of 5.4L SD's in the past as well and all of them would down shift to 2nd or 3rd at the sight of a hill when towing. They would get the load up the small hills, but it would be screamin' at 5,000 rpm doing 45 mph to get it there. I could just hum along at 1,700 rpm in 6th in my 6.7L CTD pulling the same weight up the same hill.

You're calling me a liar. I'm convinced you're a liar. I guess we'll just have to leave it at that.

Yes, I am calling you out for saying that your 5.4L only revs 30% more than my diesel pulling the same load BS. I have experience towing with 5.4L SD's and there is no way it will tow a 10k trailer up a hill at just 2,340 rpm which is 30% more than the 1,800 rpm my truck would do going 65 mph in 5th. Every 5.4L that I have driven would be screaming much higher than that at even the slightest of hill, and it you would consider yourself lucky if you were able to do the speed limit.

No way your truck will tow 10k lbs up a 6% grade 70mph at 1800rpm. You're still lying. Lol!

kw/00 wrote:
Looking forward to Ford producing this engine, I’m sure GM will follow suit as well with changing the 6.0 to a larger displacement. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the 6.0 and it’s proven stronger then what it says on paper. I just figure if Ford goes bigger so will GM. Looking forward to the new gas engine power plants.

I read an article (don't recall the source) a while back that GM was developing a big block gas motor. It would make sense since Chevrolet now has the medium duty truck line that will need a gas engine since there appears to be a market for medium duty gas powered trucks these days.