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cccougar
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May 21, 2017

Ford F 150

Looking at 2017 F150 XLT Super Crew with the 3.5 V6 GTDI Eco Boost and new 10 speed. It looks like it can tow and has the payload for our 30' Heritage Glen with dry weight of 6400 and 7500 with gear, water,propane etc... I have never had Ford before but I know they receive great reviews. Do you think there would be issues pulling with a V6- especially up hills? The GCWR is 16,100 with a 3.55 axle ratio. Anyone with experience who can share would be appreciated. Thanks.
  • shaner82 wrote:
    donn0128 wrote:
    A 30 foot TT behind a 150 anything is certainally opening you up for some unpleasant trips. The huge sail you call a TT can move even the biggest of trucks around in the right situation. Personally I would get a 2500 gas motor for the added stability, stiffer springs, better tires, etc.


    I don't necessarily agree with that. I pull a 33 foot TT (29 foot living space) with my F150. As long as you're setup properly and within the weight limits of the TV, then there's no reason a 1/2 ton can't do the job. My F150 has the 2.7 EB and it tows better than my last F150 that had the V8. There's definitely no lack of power. Sure, I feel the odd bit of sway, but nothing that will make your palms sweat.


    I agree, a properly set up Half Ton is more than capable of towing a 30 ft TT. I did it with an old 97 F150 and a 31.5 ft TT that weighed about 6500 lbs loaded up. I moved up to a F350Dually and it wasn't dramatically different. Then again, I was properly matched and set up.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
  • The F150 3.5L Ecoboost engine is amazing. It is a towing monster. I have setup similar to the one you described and I have no issues at all. See photo in my signature.
  • JIMNLIN wrote:
    Be careful which F150 supercrew cab 3.5 EB engine you pick.

    You want a F150 super crew with these GVWR/RAWR packages;

    7050 GVWR...4050 RAWR...3.5 EB...1800-2000 bed payload.

    7600 GVWR...4550 RAWR...5.0...2000-2200 bed payload.

    7850HD GVWR...4800 RAWR...3.5 EB or 5.0...2400-2500 bed payload.

    Ford markets the F150 super crew 3.5 EB 6750/6900/7000 GVWR but have those small 3800 RAWR = around 1400-1500 lbs (or less) in the bed before exceeding axle and tire capacities.

    Choose the models with a 4050/4550/4800 RAWR for the most actual in the bed payloads.


    You can no longer get a 4050 lb rear axle in a CREW cab. When Ford moved to aluminum bodies in '15 they reduced the rating on the 4050 lb axle to 3800 lbs. They also reduced the GVWR. In the pre- aluminum trucks you could get 7200 lbs GVWR and 7700 lbs with max tow which gave you 500 lbs more payload. Now max tow gives you a GVWR of 7070 lbs with reduced axle ratings and a payload that doesn't reflect what it could be due to the weight savings.

    A 157" CREW max tow gives you 7070 lbs GVWR, RAWR = 3800 lbs. Payload around 1700 lbs for a nicely equipped Lariat (max 2060 lbs).
    The Heavy duty payload package is now:
    7600# GVWR 4550# RAWR max payload is 2400#
    7850# GVWR 4800# RAWR max payload is 2650#

    FYI, the heavy duty rear axle is not heavy duty anymore. The 7 lugs are gone. The axles and axle bearing are identical to the max tow axle. Both are 34 splines. The differences are: the hd rear holds slightly more fluid and has a 3.73 gearset.
    If you want a true hd axle you will have to get a Raptor rear. It has 35 splines.
  • 2015 EB Platinum changed to e-rated tires. Pulling a 37' Coachmen Catalina (333BHTSCK). 62mph cruise 15-20mph wind gusts today. No issues. Great truck.