Ford reaches tentative UAW contract.

I have spoken with many people about this. Almost every one of them said that they think the UAW is getting too greedy especially asking for benefits that most others do not get or have to pay for themselves. Most also felt that this greed was a large reason why we (the taxpayers) had to bail out these companies not to long ago. All of this on top of the current corruption scandals in the UAW's top executives are not helping their cause. They may have won this battle, but it appears they are loosing the war in the eyes of most people in my region because most are starting to view them unfavorably where they didn't just a few years ago.

They will just put in more automation and get rid of more people. Or start farming more parts out to suppliers. They might of won the battle and lose the war.

From the article:

"In related news, UAW president Gary Jones, who has been under federal investigation for alleged corruption, has asked for a leave of absence, effective Sunday, November 3. "I do not want anything to distract from the mission. I want to do what's best for the members of this great union," Jones said."

When is Kia coming out with a HD truck?

ShinerBock wrote:
I have spoken with many people about this. Almost every one of them said that they think the UAW is getting too greedy especially asking for benefits that most others do not get or have to pay for themselves. Most also felt that this greed was a large reason why we (the taxpayers) had to bail out these companies not to long ago. All of this on top of the current corruption scandals in the UAW's top executives are not helping their cause. They may have won this battle, but it appears they are loosing the war in the eyes of most people in my region because most are starting to view them unfavorably where they didn't just a few years ago.

As a 30 year Union Carpenter now retired I couldn't agree more about the greediness.
I've been saying it for years that the UAW is an embarrassment to most unions.

One interesting detail of the contract:
"Ford will invest $1 billion in the Kentucky Truck Plant in the next four years and release "all new" Super Duty pickup truck, Navigator and Expedition models."

I thought that the current Super Duty was fairly new.

Living up here in Michigan and retiring a union member, I can say that the UAW and the Teamsters are the most corrupt unions in existence. neither car squat about the rank and file. All they care about is playing the role of fat cats and bilking the members.

FCA is the one to watch. I believe the Pugeot FCA deal is more about beating the UAW than a merger. FCA is in no financial condition to match the Fords / GM contract. Will be interesting in the least.

Someone eats the contract increase costs... You and I and the price difference between the not so big 3 and the onshore foreign automakers will also widen.

Toyota needs to build a 'big truck' now. They could literally 'mop the floor' with a 3/4 or 1 ton entry.

What is really interesting is that Michigan is now a RTW state so there are no 'closed shops' anymore. It's strictly voluntary to join a union in Michigan, been that way since last year.

O know of I was working in a UAW auto plant, I'd sure as heck part company with the UAW and pocket my union dues.

Groover wrote:
One interesting detail of the contract:
"Ford will invest $1 billion in the Kentucky Truck Plant in the next four years and release "all new" Super Duty pickup truck, Navigator and Expedition models."

I thought that the current Super Duty was fairly new.

I could be wrong but I thought the current generation was released in 2016.

Edit; I believe it was 2015. When I purchased a replacement bed for the truck a 99 through 2014 were interchangeable. I have a 2014 bed on a 2006 truck.

colliehauler wrote:

Groover wrote:
One interesting detail of the contract:
"Ford will invest $1 billion in the Kentucky Truck Plant in the next four years and release "all new" Super Duty pickup truck, Navigator and Expedition models."

I thought that the current Super Duty was fairly new.

I could be wrong but I thought the current generation was released in 2016.

In Super Duty years that's pretty darned recent.

SidecarFlip wrote:



Toyota needs to build a 'big truck' now. They could literally 'mop the floor' with a 3/4 or 1 ton entry.

Toyota 'toyed' with the idea 8 or so years ago, to the point of building a concept HD pickup powered by a Hino diesel engine, but didn't go through with it. Don't know why, perhaps because they have a very small part of the half ton market?