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patperry2766
Jul 11, 2020Explorer II
Huntindog wrote:Kampfirekid wrote:What is your definition of 'tow heavy"?wanderingbob wrote:
Initial cost sounds like a big deal until you go to sell your used diesel , A five year old diesel will bring you back $4500 or 5,000 more when you go to sell .
That’s great! You spent $10k on the diesel motor in the first place. Now you’re only $5,000 to $5,500 in the hole. :)
I’ve only logged about 2.75 million miles, mostly in Ford Powerstrokes, and with today’s prices and poor fuel economy, there is no way a diesel will pay for itself or return money to offset the costs over any gas counterpart unless you tow heavy daily.
For fun, i’m trying a 3.0L Stroke in an F150. I basically pulled a deal to get the truck where the Diesel engine was a pittance over the EcoBoost. At 25-28mpg, and diesel costing a solid 25 cents a gallon less than gas here, I’m not losing money, but I can’t say I’m laughing all the way to the bank... even at 40k+ miles a year (average, pre-Covid).
Last time I checked, no gas motor was rated to tow as much as a diesel..... And I am not talking about a few hundred pounds..... It ain't even close.
There is roughly a 1500 lb difference trailer weight wise between a 6.4 Hemi with a 4.10 and a 6.7 CTD with 3.42's per the 2018 info that I have.
The getting more back at trade in time...duh. No brainer, you dropped 7-9K more for an engine, what do you expect? Diesels will be preferred but that in no way means that a good, clean gasser is gonna sit on a used car lot forever like a bastard stepchild.
Since I bought my truck 15 months ago, this is the first time that diesel prices have been the same/lower than gas. Typically it's been .25-.40 cents more so that eats up most of the potential savings of better diesel MPG.
Oil changes are 2x gas. Fuel/water filters need to be changed out at $100 a pop with me buying the parts off Amazon and doing the work myself. Have changed out 2 sets already with 35K on the vehicle. $300 at the dealership.
I have an `18 CTD CC 4x4. Bought in 5/2019 so at the time Ram was offering stupidly incredible rebates/dealer discounts to get prior year stuff off the lot. Didn't want a 4x4 and would have preferred gas, but I walked out with my current truck for less than what a comparable gas 1/2T would cost.
Would I do it again? At this point in my life with my current needs and without the significant dealer discounts...NO. A gasser would serve my needs just as well and you CAN buy an EPA approved in bed gasoline transfer tank, just as you can for a diesel so you won't be having to stop at every gas station along the way.
Do I love the truck and glad that I do have it....absolutely.
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