Saturday DW got T-boned in her 2004 Buick Rainier and it is going to be totaled we are pretty sure. Luckily she was hit in the drivers front fender tire area, if it would have been the door, she would have been in the hospital a lot longer than the 5 hours she spent there. So we drove a lot of different SUV's yesterday. Last one was a 2015 Ford Edge Sport with the 310 HP Eco-boost and 6 speed auto. We liked the handling and performance and it fit like a fine leather glove. Today we are going to look at a 2020 with the revised 335 HP 2.7 V6 and 8 speed auto. From what I have read these engines are in F150's and other Ford vehicles also. And that Ford did not design the original 2.7 L, but was involved with the up graded version in 2019. What do you FORD guys know about these two engines and transmissions. Mileage is a lot better than what the 5.3 V8 got in the AWD Rainier, however they call for premium gas, which cost more. I read that FORD did not have the shift programming of the 8 speed worked out very well, does anyone know if they had TSB's to address that? Road noise is an issue also, the Rainier had a lot of sound deadening that was not in the Chevy 360 platform. Of the vehicles we drove the 2019 Tahoe and Edge were the quietest. Used Highlander and Chevy Traverse had a fair amount of road noise. And we do not need a 3 row seating vehicle.

Just found this TSB 20-2190 which maybe addresses the shifting issues.

Chris the 150s with 2.7 have a 10-speed transmission, not sure on the edge, but would guess the same on new models. My son went from a 3.5 150 with 6-speed to a 2.7 150 with 10-speed. He is a fast driver, uses vehicles hard, but still gets good mileage. He does not tow with it though. He likes the newer 2.7, compared to the earlier 3.5.Jerry

I know three people with the 2.7. Two older ones and a newer one. They all report great fuel economy and no problems. Ford does have a blurb in the manual about using premium "for best performance" but nobody that I know uses premium and they still love the performance. I use the cheapest fuel that I can find in both of my 3.5s with no issues and plenty of performance even while doing serious trailer pulling. A lot of modern engines can adapt to fuel octane and contain similar advice for best performance but still don't require premium.The 3.5 high perfomance found in the Raptor and Limited do require premium but they are the only ecoboost engines that do.

I have an 2016 Edge with a 2.0L 4 cylinder EcoBoost engine and a 6 speed transmission. I find it has plenty of power when I need it. It is also very quiet.I think the 2.7L EcoBoost is "overkill" unless you are planning on towing, but the rest of the chassis only supports Class II towing. The V6 and 8 speed are only available in the Edge ST along with AWD, a premium package.

Like others have said, there is a difference between a vehicle that requires premium vs one that recommends it for best towing performance. I’ve had both.We currently have a 3.5 EB in a 2019 Exp MAX. I’ve used both regular and premium in it. It usually gets just regular unless I am towing over the Rockies. I haven’t noticed any difference in MPG with the two fuels. I do think that you comparing your old 5.3 in the Rainer vs the current generations 2.7 isn’t a fair comparison. While i haven’t checked fuelly, my guess is the current 5.3 gets significantly better MPG than yours does, and probably isn’t at a deficit to the 2.7 if you are comparing similar vehicles. Speaking of similar vehicles, you aren’t really comparing that. The Tahoe you have looked at would be a direct competitor of the regular Expedition. Have you looked at the Hyundai Palisade or the Kia Telluride? Personally, I’d probably look at those more than a Edge. One final note. You should look at a Hertz dealership (associated with the car rental agency). Because of the virus, they are off loading a lot of Edge and Tahoe’s (and similar vehicles) due to the virus. As a general rule, those vehicles will be very low mileage and have been maintained to manufacturers specs. Honestly now might be the best time to buy something like that.

Ford's twin turbo 2.7 Eco-boost V6 (new and older versions)?

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blt2ski
Moderator
Jun 28, 2020
Groover wrote:

According to my brother his does very well towing that much weight. And it should. The 2.7 Ecoboost is rated at 325hp and 400lb-ft of torque and a 10 speed. My 1991 F250 with a 460 engine was rated to pull 12,500lbs with 230hp and 390lb-ft of torque and a 4 speed. In its day it was a towing monster with the highest tow rating of any pickup that year from what I could find.

My 88 TBI and 89 4bbl 454s were 235/385 power specs. They had a 16K gcwr iirc with 4.10 gears, and 19000 with 4.56. Actual tow rating was gcw less tare, so depending upon the cab options etc, that obviously makes the tow rating vary some. Only issue with the th400, was the really tall first gear.
blt2ski
Moderator
Jun 28, 2020
Me Again wrote:
blt2ski wrote:
Chris,
If some one had that motor in a 150, seems like power wise, should pull a 5-600 lb trailer readonably well. No, it's not going to keep up with a current day 400-500 HP TD. Should not be going 25 like some BN V8 s of you're from 70s and 80s.

Marty

5-600 or 5-6000???? Chris

5-6000....... looks like my thmb forgot a 0....
With the hp numbers given, figure it should do better than my old BB V8's..... better mpg too!
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jun 28, 2020
Me Again wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Sounds like it’s a nice car to “RIDE IN”

Look who is in the passenger seat!

Up Hwy 9, around Lake Whatcom and back down Chuckanut Drive.(I know car is pointed North in pictures)

Easy to ask her to set in the passenger seat to obtain a nice pic!!!

I was out there today slaying the Spot Shrinp.
Groover
Explorer II
Jun 28, 2020
Me Again wrote:
blt2ski wrote:
Chris,
If some one had that motor in a 150, seems like power wise, should pull a 5-600 lb trailer readonably well. No, it's not going to keep up with a current day 400-500 HP TD. Should not be going 25 like some BN V8 s of you're from 70s and 80s.

Marty

5-600 or 5-6000???? Chris

According to my brother his does very well towing that much weight. And it should. The 2.7 Ecoboost is rated at 325hp and 400lb-ft of torque and a 10 speed. My 1991 F250 with a 460 engine was rated to pull 12,500lbs with 230hp and 390lb-ft of torque and a 4 speed. In its day it was a towing monster with the highest tow rating of any pickup that year from what I could find.
Me_Again
Explorer III
Jun 27, 2020
blt2ski wrote:
Chris,
If some one had that motor in a 150, seems like power wise, should pull a 5-600 lb trailer readonably well. No, it's not going to keep up with a current day 400-500 HP TD. Should not be going 25 like some BN V8 s of you're from 70s and 80s.

Marty

5-600 or 5-6000???? Chris
blt2ski
Moderator
Jun 27, 2020
Chris,
If some one had that motor in a 150, seems like power wise, should pull a 5-600 lb trailer readonably well. No, it's not going to keep up with a current day 400-500 HP TD. Should not be going 25 like some BN V8 s of you're from 70s and 80s.

Marty
Me_Again
Explorer III
Jun 27, 2020
Nv Guy wrote:
Wife drives a '15 Edge Sport, just hit 60K miles zero problem. Only replacements have been tires, the Hankooks wear rather quickly, but with the AWD they work very well in snow. One of the best cars we have owned.

Thanks for the report. Yep, a test drive of an used 15 Edge Sport was what started the whole thingy.
Nv_Guy
Explorer III
Jun 27, 2020
Wife drives a '15 Edge Sport, just hit 60K miles zero problem. Only replacements have been tires, the Hankooks wear rather quickly, but with the AWD they work very well in snow. One of the best cars we have owned.
Me_Again
Explorer III
Jun 27, 2020
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Sounds like it’s a nice car to “RIDE IN”

Look who is in the passenger seat!

Up Hwy 9, around Lake Whatcom and back down Chuckanut Drive.(I know car is pointed North in pictures)
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jun 26, 2020
Sounds like it’s a nice car to “RIDE IN”