GM’s official run at Tesla starts with its E Hummer debut.

fj12ryder wrote:

free radical wrote:
Seems like GM is full o bufalo manure

https://insideevs.com/news/450345/gm-admits-no-gmc-hummer-ev-exists-yet/

Why is that a surprise? None of the EV companies would be able to "reveal" their products if it weren't for Photoshop and CGI. LOL

fj12ryder wrote:

free radical wrote:
Seems like GM is full o bufalo manure

https://insideevs.com/news/450345/gm-admits-no-gmc-hummer-ev-exists-yet/

Why is that a surprise? None of the EV companies would be able to "reveal" their products if it weren't for Photoshop and CGI. LOL

time2roll wrote:
Sandy Munro is saying 3,500 payload and 11,000 tow rating.

https://insideevs.com/features/450580/video-hummer-ev-tesla-cybertruck-rivian-r1t-munro/

free radical wrote:
Seems like GM is full o bufalo manure

https://insideevs.com/news/450345/gm-admits-no-gmc-hummer-ev-exists-yet/

free radical wrote:
I wonder how many people will actualy take $ 120 grand truck off roading?
Probably not many.
Cybertruck made with that stainles steel body would be my choice

Groover wrote:

Reisender wrote:

thomas201 wrote:
I worked for a company where a Chevy 3/4 ton with Quadrasteer was passed around for opinions. We were in the oilfield in the eastern US. This means miles of mud up to the doors. The truck had failures, maybe due to long periods of the steering motor being wet, sometimes submerged. Then it dried out and was surrounded by hard mud, the boots got ripped. It also seemed to want to have the rear climb up out of the ruts. It also seemed to be a weak design, when you got in too deep and the cat had to drag you out backwards. If I remember correctly the steering tie rods and rack and pinion now lead the way in reverse, and found the rocks in the mud. All that stuff was about axle height. Now for rock crawling, maybe a different opinion. Parallel parked good too. We normally did not tow trailers with "white" vehicles so no opinion on towing.

Speaking of towing, any news on the E Hummer on ratings and distance?

Haven’t seen anything on towing. The EV truck gurus figure that the kind of towing it should be able to do is a trailer full of quads or dirt bikes, boats etc. Weekend recreation. Not sure how valid that is. What go hummers typically tow. Guessing it’s classified as a half ton like the Cybertruck and Rivian.

I find it interesting that the suspension and steering technologies could be implemented now on ICE trucks but the closest we have is Ram using air bags on some of their trucks. If this stuff is so good why aren't we seeing more of it now? If it is not good for use today why should we be getting excited about having it two years from now? What are the tradeoffs going to be with air suspension and 4 wheel steer?

I love the possible benefits but I also like stability when towing, reliability and affordable maintenance.

time2roll wrote:
I recall many great compliments from those that actually owned a quadrasteer.
While neither is in production I would trust the Hummer over Cyber for off-road strength and durability of the suspension.
Will be interesting what the off-road people say about each.

Reisender wrote:

thomas201 wrote:
I worked for a company where a Chevy 3/4 ton with Quadrasteer was passed around for opinions. We were in the oilfield in the eastern US. This means miles of mud up to the doors. The truck had failures, maybe due to long periods of the steering motor being wet, sometimes submerged. Then it dried out and was surrounded by hard mud, the boots got ripped. It also seemed to want to have the rear climb up out of the ruts. It also seemed to be a weak design, when you got in too deep and the cat had to drag you out backwards. If I remember correctly the steering tie rods and rack and pinion now lead the way in reverse, and found the rocks in the mud. All that stuff was about axle height. Now for rock crawling, maybe a different opinion. Parallel parked good too. We normally did not tow trailers with "white" vehicles so no opinion on towing.

Speaking of towing, any news on the E Hummer on ratings and distance?

Haven’t seen anything on towing. The EV truck gurus figure that the kind of towing it should be able to do is a trailer full of quads or dirt bikes, boats etc. Weekend recreation. Not sure how valid that is. What go hummers typically tow. Guessing it’s classified as a half ton like the Cybertruck and Rivian.