GM Strike

ShinerBock wrote:


So you are able to speak with every person representing you including the President?

Well I'm sure most replies, if I get one, come from staff. And the president does not represent me.

JRscooby wrote:
Can you name the union where the rank and file members do not vote to decide who will represent them when it comes times to decide how to spend the money?

I was talking about political candidates. Like the example I stated earlier with my brother and IBEW where the union was giving money to politicians that don't share the same policies and values as 90% of their members. They are essentially forced to give money to get people they don't agree with to get elected.

Please explain to me how if the leadership of the of the union, that is spending union money, disagrees with 90% of the members, the members do not vote that leadership out of office.

JRscooby wrote:
Bet you only cashed 2 out of 3 paychecks too.

Huh?

It has been proven often that if a plant organized, the wages went up, not only at that plant but other plants in the same industry, and other plants in the area.

JRscooby wrote:
On the macro level, before unions where widespread, maybe the church insisted business close on Sunday, but work 6 days a week was normal, and the best your kids could hope for was a job as "good" as yours. Then there was I time when a man could work 40 hours, and have money and time to enjoy something like a camping trip. After about 30 years of class warfare, we are again to the point when it is very hard for a family to get time off all the jobs needed to spend a weekend camping. But I got mine, you are on your own.

I am on my own and I prefer it that way. I became an expert in my field by my own merit which is why the last two companies I worked for sought me out to work for them. Because of this, I am able to negotiate pay, vacation, retirement, and stock options. Our healthcare sucks, but I am more than compensated in my bonuses for it. I don't want to be in a situation where someone else is negotiating my pay because I would have to make the same as everyone else that may or may not have a lower work ethic.

Good on you. But think about staffing a organization where many people do basically the same job. Can you say "Race to the Bottom"?

ShinerBock wrote:

Like JRscooby is when he calls people in right to work states "freeloaders". I don't think anyone called a union worker a name like that in this thread.

Whoa! Back up there! I don't think I called people in right to work states "freeloaders".
Say 10 people working side by each, all doing the same work, all getting paid the same, union negotiated rate, working under the same union negotiated work rules. 6 are paying the dues, 4 are not. Now say work gets slow, company decides need to cut staff, and wants to lay off the oldest because he will soon be eligible for the union negotiated retirement. By the so called "Right To Work" laws I have read, if the contract says the least senior workers should be first cut, union must represent the one the company want to cut, even if he has never paid a dime in dues. What do you call that old guy? If you paid dues, does that change his name?