GM suspends two engineers in disciplinary action

jalichty wrote:
It's a little hard to blame this on the Government since the problem started in the early 2000s well before GM became Government Motors. However, the unions are still owners, as far as I know, and they were there through the whole thing. While some engineers may have tried to cover it up, the worker bees are the ones who installed the product, albeit at the direction of the engineers eventually. Nothing good is going to come of this for GM but I'll bet they get through it just as Toyota has.

Are you freaking kidding me! You want to try and push the blame on to the line workers and the UAW? The UAW has no control over the day to day operations of GM! Do you work for the Government? Sounds like an A-Typical republican response, blame it on the Unions and the workers. Give me a break. Here is some reading for you. Time line for this.
2001: GM detects the defect during pre-production testing of the Saturn Ion.

2003: A service technician closes an inquiry into a stalling Saturn Ion after changing the key ring and noticing the problem was fixed.

2004: GM recognizes the defect again as the Chevrolet Cobalt replaces the Cavalier. click the link to read the full timeline.

GM has been asked to issue a "Park it recall" but is refusing.
DETROIT -- A federal judge in Texas today declined to issue an emergency order forcing General Motors to tell owners of 2.6 million recalled cars to stop driving them immediately. A ruling on the matter could come next week instead.

GM told the court that it has conducted more than 80 tests showing that the cars it is recalling for faulty ignition switches are still safe to drive, so long as nothing else is attached to the ignition key. GM CEO Mary Barra told a Senate subcommittee this week that she would allow her teenage son to drive one of the cars before it is repaired. LINK

They will fire the scapegoats very publicly and let those that made the decisions retire with a fat check, and everyone knows it.

lbrjet wrote:
How is an extra paid vacation considered a disciplinary action? They learned something from govt ownership I guess.

I agree this doesn't belong in tow vehicles, but got slammed by the GM fanboys yesterday for saying an article about Buick/Cadillac didn't belong here either.

If you read the article it said firings are on the way if people covered it up. The suspension is temporary. They want to fire all who are responsible at he same time.

It's a little hard to blame this on the Government since the problem started in the early 2000s well before GM became Government Motors. However, the unions are still owners, as far as I know, and they were there through the whole thing. While some engineers may have tried to cover it up, the worker bees are the ones who installed the product, albeit at the direction of the engineers eventually. Nothing good is going to come of this for GM but I'll bet they get through it just as Toyota has.

ib516 wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
But how many years of death wobble and broken tie rod ends is ok ?

chevman

None, but I think the difference is the lies & attempted cover up.

Not good for sure but lies seem to be ok at this time of our lives.

chevman

larry barnhart wrote:
But how many years of death wobble and broken tie rod ends is ok ?

chevman

None, but I think the difference is the lies & attempted cover up.

Well, GM just announced a recall for the recall....

But how many years of death wobble and broken tie rod ends is ok ?

chevman

gbopp wrote:

Ric Flair wrote:
Didn't affect any trucks, only a few weenie cars.

And since that also means it didn't effect diesel doolies, it's not relevant to "tow vehicles"

Can a weenie car pull a pop up camper?

If so, isn't that a 'tow vehicle' :@

Nah, you need AT LEAST 2,000 lbs payload for one of those. That puts you into 3/4 ton territory or higher. Obviously diesel is the only engine that can pull them too. Pulling in the Rockies might cause a gas engine to rev to 3000 RPM, which as we all know is horrible and will cause the engine to immediately explode, killing everyone around you.

coolbreeze01 wrote:
Remember the 6 Phases of a Project?

1. Enthusiasm
2. Disillusionment
3. Panic
4. Search for the Guilty
5. Punishment of the Innocent
6. Praise & Honors for the Nonparticipants

And if it's a government project the 7th phase is to form a committee to study the problem.