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DiverDan80
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Feb 11, 2017

Help! New to Truck-camper Camping

Hello, new to the forum and to trying to getting my family into truck camper camping (we are done with tents!). I have a 2001 Ford F250 SD 7.3 XLT 4x4 long bed (non-dually) with heavy duty overload springs and stock front swaybar that was basically given to me (everything else is stock). I bought a nice 1978 Lance cab-over-camper with a dry weight of 1,950 lbs. Needless to say, for some reason, this was WAY to much camper for the truck...even when driving like a granny the sway was almost uncontrollable. I ended up giving away the camper.

I don't know if it was the camper (which may have had heavy mods before I bought it, i.e. weighing more than the stated 1,950lbs) or the truck's suspension just couldn't handle it. FYI, the ride is crazy bouncy when not under load, which tells me the suspension is doing its job (?) Other info, the camper I had was fricking huge...it stuck out over the rear bumper 4+ feet and was very tall.

I will mostly have the camper on the truck towing a small zodiac inflatable boat for SCUBA diving, however, I will use the truck unloaded. I also want my wife to be able to drive the rig if necessary...i.e., simple and straightforward driving without white knuckling it. Long story short, I have decided to go the pop-up camper route...however, quite a few of theses campers still have a dry weight of 1,650+ lbs. and I am worried about ending up in the same situation.

Do I:

- Remove the overload spring and replace with air bags (they say it's an either/or situation)
- Keep the overload springs and add full StableLoad kit
- Choose either one and add a rear sway bar

I know there is probably something I have left out, but I hate feeling at the mercy of a non-camper hauling dude telling me what mods I need to do. I see older and same year/model F250's and even F150's hauling massive campers with multiple popouts with no problem...what am I missing?? Thanks!!

Dan
  • Sounds like a shock or low tire pressure issue. What was the tire pressure and what shocks are you running?

    Either way it will feel different with the tc loaded.
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  • I have Kelly Safari tires with a load range 'E' with a max load of 3,415 LBS.

    Front GAWR: 4,800 LB
    Rear GAWR: 6,084 LB
    GVWR: 8,800 LB

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    Dan
  • You chimed in while I was typing lol!....I'm going to say that the placard on that TC was way off...you had that truck way overloaded in my opinion.
  • Hello and welcome to the family. Well KD4UPL pretty much gets you started in the right direction. I personally would not start with a pop up, it is a tent in the back of your bed. You have a good truck and with the right setup, you shoul be able to carry a smaller hardside no problem. Now right off...it has overloads but does not have a sway bar in the rear? Umm well this is a must have. Do not remove your overload springs as this is why they are there, to help support the load. Tires are a huge factor here also. You need to tell us what those are. Tell me the truck does not have a lift either. There are many ways to custom up a hauler and we are here to help. Jump in and ask away....you came this far so lets talk. Get some payload info for us also...check your door sticker and give us your axle weight ratings and gross weight. These all play a part in the big picture. Don't be discouraged there is something that will work for your truck. Glad you made it!
  • KD4UPL - Thank you for replying! Yes sir, it's a long bed XLT cab...I knew I was leaving something out. And yes...4 feet off the rear bumper. It was crazy big inside...friends who are RV'ers kept saying it was the size of a small-to-medium size class C inside! It literally was like three rooms...table/dining with bath, kitchen and over cab 'bedroom'. But the info plate on the back said '1,950 lbs' dry. As far as tires, I have Kelly Safari load range 'E' with a max load of 3,415 LBS.
  • I find it hard to believe that a 1978 model that hung over your bed 4' had a dry weight of 1,950 pounds. Is this a long bed truck? That would make it an 11' or 12' camper. My own 11' camper with no slides weights over 3,000 pounds dry. (Yes, I weighed it empty).
    What tires were on the truck? Fairly stock size in a load range E I hope. Is this also a crew cab where you loaded up a bunch of family? That adds considerable weight.
    I would keep the overload springs and add the StableLoad kit. You will probably also need airbags and a sway bar.
    The real short answer is that you might simply not have enough truck. As an exampel, with my family of 4 in my Chevy crew cab dually and my 11' camper loaded on the back I am over my GVWR by 1,500 pounds. I can't image how far it would be over on a F250.
    I've got wider tires, air bags, and HD shocks and the truck has thousands of trouble free miles of hauling the camper.