I recently got a new 2016 GMC Denial 3500 SRW Diesel. According to the brochure it has a payload of 4080lbs.We are looking to get a Sandpiper 372lok which has a pin weight of 2474 and GVWR of 15,500.We are a family of 4 and have been camping for many years. The 5er has a CCC of 2538#, but I really never see using going near that number. We have never came near it yet, and as our kids grow, their toys are get in much lighter (now iPads vs lots kids toys), so I don't see things getting any heavier. But I want to be realistic.Before we get our hopes to high, is my new truck capable of safely hauling this 5er. Thanks for all your input,Cheers, Ryan

The pin weight number you listed is DRY not loaded ready to travel. Double that number and you will be far closer to an actual pin weight. Load the family up with everything you can think of and drive across a set of scales. I would be suprised if you dont weigh around 8000 pounds. Meaning your real life payload including a hitch will be around 3000 pounds. But you also have to understand a fivers pin weight, what ever it turns out to be is placed directly over the rear axle. Which is based on your rear tires load rating. Glad your asking first, but I would suggest you start looking at fiver with GVWR around 13,000 pounds.

You have a 2016 3500 SRW with a payload of 4080# (is that what door sticker lists---Yellow sticker with 'Tire and Loading Information'It will list YOUR trucks payload (Cargo Carrying Capacity)15,500 GVWR 5th wheel.....Using a 22% pin weight-----3410#Your truck is quite capable of 'carrying' that pin weightCheck trucks RAWR and Rear Tire Max Load RatingsWeighing truck fully loaded and camp ready is always best so you have real world numbers to work withNo need to look for a 13,000# 5th wheelI tow 14K with my old 2007 3500 and am not over RAWR/Rear Tire Load witha 3000# wet pin weightAnd my 2007 has lower ratings then your 2016

You need to look at the payload sticker on your truck, rather than the brochure number. Your truck will be borderline for payload, with loaded pin weight of that FW, and family/gear in the truck. Using Old-Biscuits example, you should be under RAWR/tire ratings (most important), towing that FW, especially if not loading it to full GVWR.The scales will tell the final numbers, but unfortunately it is hard to know the FW loaded pin wt until after the purchase. JMO, but I think this FW will work for you, especially if not loaded to 15,500 GVWR.Jerry

How big are you and kids? If I take my spouse, myself and 2 of 4 smallest kids, or two biggest as teens, I have 800-900 lbs of people, Add into that the 150 lbs of hitch, 3000 lbs of hw, plus other assorted odds and ends, I am over 4000 lbs of payload needed. I should also point out, I pulled a 6500-7000 lbs TT with my family of 6, 2 alaskan malamutes, rack, canoe etc, and was typically 200-800 over the manufacture gvwr, but below ALL axel limits, and most importantly, the registered gvw of the truck. with NO white knuckle driving experiences just driving...BUT, with this said.....a dually may be the better option if you are going to put bikes in the forward part of the bed, maybe a generator etc. You could easily need upwards of 5000 lbs of payload. Marty

3400 pounds for pin, 150 for hitch, 500 for family, 500 for the upscale trim comes out to roughly 4550 pounds in a truck rated to haul 4000 pounds. Yea, I dont see any problems at all. :h

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Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
May 18, 2017
You have a 2016 3500 SRW with a payload of 4080# (is that what door sticker lists---Yellow sticker with 'Tire and Loading Information'

It will list YOUR trucks payload (Cargo Carrying Capacity)

15,500 GVWR 5th wheel.....
Using a 22% pin weight-----3410#

Your truck is quite capable of 'carrying' that pin weight
Check trucks RAWR and Rear Tire Max Load Ratings
Weighing truck fully loaded and camp ready is always best so you have real world numbers to work with

No need to look for a 13,000# 5th wheel

I tow 14K with my old 2007 3500 and am not over RAWR/Rear Tire Load witha 3000# wet pin weight
And my 2007 has lower ratings then your 2016
donn0128
Explorer II
May 18, 2017
The pin weight number you listed is DRY not loaded ready to travel. Double that number and you will be far closer to an actual pin weight. Load the family up with everything you can think of and drive across a set of scales. I would be suprised if you dont weigh around 8000 pounds. Meaning your real life payload including a hitch will be around 3000 pounds. But you also have to understand a fivers pin weight, what ever it turns out to be is placed directly over the rear axle. Which is based on your rear tires load rating. Glad your asking first, but I would suggest you start looking at fiver with GVWR around 13,000 pounds.

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