Lance was nice, but I didn't like the floor plans and they were an insane amount of money. I do most of my camping with full hookups so I'm not too worried about off road ability. I'm checking out the arctic fox 24j which is doable, but why do they all say that no they are not self contained? I'm not sure what that means. I looked at a coachmen catalina 231rb today and I liked the camper, liked the layout, liked the price, but the salesman couldn't tell me what the difference between that one and a more expensive one was.
