Hot Shot Secret

BenK wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
Ok guys, Here it is in a nut shell. My 6.0 is a little sluggish and has a little rough idle. I had a small issue with the popping and missing when under a decent pull. I pulled the egr valve and cleaned and solved that problem.

I changed oil yesterday @145K miles and added 2 qts of Hot Shot Secret.

Tractor Supply now carrys it and a friend of mine gave it a try and liked the results. I know a few of you will cry Snake Oil and don't care. I will let you know what it if anything changes.

and

Bird Freak wrote:
snip...

I have already

changed the oil and put this stuff in

. I will wait and see what happens with it. If nothing I will try your way and get back with you. I also leave tonight to pick up another project car and will run about 1K miles.

and

hotshot wrote:

Heat and friction silently steal power from your diesel engine. The scientists from LSI Institute have uncovered a powerful lubricity agent…Hot Shot’s Secret Friction Reducer. One treatment of Friction Reducer to your oil and your diesel will run cooler and increase towing power. Negatively charged synthetic ester tenaciously attaches to all internal parts completely lubricating your diesel engine.

PS...(my comments) this is pure marketing verbiage...no technical
stuff at all, other than a buzz word like 'ester'

Truth in that 'heat and friction' does steal power, but how do they
negate that and if so, how much? If 0.01% reduction...I'm not going to
spend any $$$ on that little to no gain

See above bolded in red...

I don't see your point here on changing the oil yesterday. That is when I put the stuff in. That would have been the 12th today is the 13th. Your point was? Also the stiction eliminator says nothing about the stuff you stated on their website or on my bottle about added lubrication. I don't think you have your facts straight.

Bird Freak wrote:
Ok guys, Here it is in a nut shell. My 6.0 is a little sluggish and has a little rough idle. I had a small issue with the popping and missing when under a decent pull. I pulled the egr valve and cleaned and solved that problem.

I changed oil yesterday @145K miles and added 2 qts of Hot Shot Secret.

Tractor Supply now carrys it and a friend of mine gave it a try and liked the results. I know a few of you will cry Snake Oil and don't care. I will let you know what it if anything changes.

and

Bird Freak wrote:
snip...

I have already

changed the oil and put this stuff in

. I will wait and see what happens with it. If nothing I will try your way and get back with you. I also leave tonight to pick up another project car and will run about 1K miles.

and

hotshot wrote:

Heat and friction silently steal power from your diesel engine. The scientists from LSI Institute have uncovered a powerful lubricity agent…Hot Shot’s Secret Friction Reducer. One treatment of Friction Reducer to your oil and your diesel will run cooler and increase towing power. Negatively charged synthetic ester tenaciously attaches to all internal parts completely lubricating your diesel engine.

PS...(my comments) this is pure marketing verbiage...no technical
stuff at all, other than a buzz word like 'ester'

Truth in that 'heat and friction' does steal power, but how do they
negate that and if so, how much? If 0.01% reduction...I'm not going to
spend any $$$ on that little to no gain

See above bolded in red...

BenK wrote:
What is this stuff supposed to do?

Am always interested in IP, but will dissect it before jumping in

Is it in the super lube, self plating category like molybdenum disulfide and
tungsten disulfide?

Or is it in the plastic category like Slick50?...oh, just found their page and
it is not a polymer, so answers that.

Yes, read your links all the way to their link, but nothing on engine oil other
than it's a ester

Stuff has to be in context or worthless or a negative.

Like the DLC on the CP4 pump discussion where I found that Bosch engineers used
DLC only on one surface where the lube is diesel fuel.

Out of context using DLC in there with a very poor lube like diesel.

Missed is that diamond is one of the best non-stick and thermal conductors known
to mankind (that I know of).

Meaning that a poor lube will have poor film strength (tensile) on regular metal
surfaces (wet it). Worse yet on the best non-stick known to mankind. So NO lube
is filmed on the DLC cam of the CP4 pump. ZERO lube...unless there is treatment
or additive I'm not aware of

Marry that with the unknown 'slipperiness' of DLC surface for a metal cam follower
to run on...

One of the purposes of engine oil is to keep it from going metal on metal by
providing a film of oil for the parts to 'float' on. How does this secret stuff
assist or improve on that?

I know how Molyb, Tungsten and graphite does that, but want to know what their
secret stuff is or how it does it's job on that

It was designed to clean sticky injectors and turbos. Not any type of coating or lube enhancer.

What is this stuff supposed to do?

Am always interested in IP, but will dissect it before jumping in

Is it in the super lube, self plating category like molybdenum disulfide and
tungsten disulfide?

Or is it in the plastic category like Slick50?...oh, just found their page and
it is not a polymer, so answers that.

Yes, read your links all the way to their link, but nothing on engine oil other
than it's a ester

Stuff has to be in context or worthless or a negative.

Like the DLC on the CP4 pump discussion where I found that Bosch engineers used
DLC only on one surface where the lube is diesel fuel.

Out of context using DLC in there with a very poor lube like diesel.

Missed is that diamond is one of the best non-stick and thermal conductors known
to mankind (that I know of).

Meaning that a poor lube will have poor film strength (tensile) on regular metal
surfaces (wet it). Worse yet on the best non-stick known to mankind. So NO lube
is filmed on the DLC cam of the CP4 pump. ZERO lube...unless there is treatment
or additive I'm not aware of

Marry that with the unknown 'slipperiness' of DLC surface for a metal cam follower
to run on...

One of the purposes of engine oil is to keep it from going metal on metal by
providing a film of oil for the parts to 'float' on. How does this secret stuff
assist or improve on that?

I know how Molyb, Tungsten and graphite does that, but want to know what their
secret stuff is or how it does it's job on that

FishOnOne wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

thomasmnile wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
Ok guys, Here it is in a nut shell. My 6.0 is a little sluggish and has a little rough idle. I had a small issue with the popping and missing when under a decent pull. I pulled the egr valve and cleaned and solved that problem. I changed oil yesterday @145K miles and added 2 qts of Hot Shot Secret. Tractor Supply now carrys it and a friend of mine gave it a try and liked the results. I know a few of you will cry Snake Oil and don't care. I will let you know what it if anything changes.

Nah, Bird Freak the Hot Shot Secret horse has already been flogged. HERE Even a poster that states he is the owner/producer off HS Secret dropped in on the conversation.

Good read. Guess I will see for myself.

Assuming your FICM is healthy and if you have injector stiction try a 5W40 oil or purchase some Archoil 9100 or Rev X which have a proven record.

I have already changed the oil and put this stuff in. I will wait and see what happens with it. If nothing I will try your way and get back with you. I also leave tonight to pick up another project car and will run about 1K miles.

Bird Freak wrote:

thomasmnile wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
Ok guys, Here it is in a nut shell. My 6.0 is a little sluggish and has a little rough idle. I had a small issue with the popping and missing when under a decent pull. I pulled the egr valve and cleaned and solved that problem. I changed oil yesterday @145K miles and added 2 qts of Hot Shot Secret. Tractor Supply now carrys it and a friend of mine gave it a try and liked the results. I know a few of you will cry Snake Oil and don't care. I will let you know what it if anything changes.

Nah, Bird Freak the Hot Shot Secret horse has already been flogged. HERE Even a poster that states he is the owner/producer off HS Secret dropped in on the conversation.

Good read. Guess I will see for myself.

Assuming your FICM is healthy and if you have injector stiction try a 5W40 oil or purchase some Archoil 9100 or Rev X which have a proven record.

thomasmnile wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:
Ok guys, Here it is in a nut shell. My 6.0 is a little sluggish and has a little rough idle. I had a small issue with the popping and missing when under a decent pull. I pulled the egr valve and cleaned and solved that problem. I changed oil yesterday @145K miles and added 2 qts of Hot Shot Secret. Tractor Supply now carrys it and a friend of mine gave it a try and liked the results. I know a few of you will cry Snake Oil and don't care. I will let you know what it if anything changes.

Nah, Bird Freak the Hot Shot Secret horse has already been flogged. HERE Even a poster that states he is the owner/producer off HS Secret dropped in on the conversation.

Good read. Guess I will see for myself.

Bird Freak wrote:
Ok guys, Here it is in a nut shell. My 6.0 is a little sluggish and has a little rough idle. I had a small issue with the popping and missing when under a decent pull. I pulled the egr valve and cleaned and solved that problem. I changed oil yesterday @145K miles and added 2 qts of Hot Shot Secret. Tractor Supply now carrys it and a friend of mine gave it a try and liked the results. I know a few of you will cry Snake Oil and don't care. I will let you know what it if anything changes.

Nah, Bird Freak the Hot Shot Secret horse has already been flogged. HERE Even a poster that states he is the owner/producer off HS Secret dropped in on the conversation.