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RedRocket204 wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
Something I find interesting, one of my friends has a new Chevy Silverado Duramax 3/4 ton and his tailgate (steel) weighs maybe half of what mine weighs. He borrowed my Quad a few months ago and my loading ramps and bent his tailgate loading the quad. real strong' stuff there I'd say. I found it funny in a way. I've never had an issue loading my quad in my Ford.
They build them thinner and cheaper every year but the price keeps climbing.
Your friend must've done something very wrong or there was a problem with his.
I've got plenty of friends who bed load their big bore quads (850lbs +), myself included, in their modern truck and no one has ever had an issue with a tailgate.
So no, I don't agree with your opinion.
I have no opinion (and I didn't sate one either). I merely stated what happened. I don't have a new truck and correct, I didn't load it, he did. I do know the tailgate weighs about half what mine does.
My opinion is, they are overpriced (all models, all makes). The automakers aren't at all bashful about boasting about the profit margins made on truck sales. Big profits tells me they have inflated prices.
I am a little partial to Fords in as much as we are a Ford Motor family. I can always get an 'A' plan deal on a new one, but I don't want one.BB_TX wrote:
I am going to assume you have never actually seen the Ford tailgate step as it is inside the tailgate and cannot even be seen until you pull it straight back out of the tailgate and let it drop down. And you can definitely flat load things over it that are longer than the bed since the tailgate is flat with the bed, with the step in or out.
Never assume things... My friend has a 2016 F350 and LOVES it, but there are times he wishes he didn't have the ladder step. When he loads bales of hay to feed his horses, it won't slide off his tailgate, it gets caught up on the tailgate step because his sticks up a little bit. This is his SECOND tailgate (first one was stolen earlier this year, $6000 to replace it) and they both protruded and caused issues with hay bales.jus2shy wrote:
Saw the other video where they site performance on the Ike Gauntlet that TFL Truck does. Really, looking at that, it's a dead heat among the 3. All 3 trucks needing between 1 and 3 brake applications, and less than 20 or so seconds between the fastest and slowest up the hill.... yeah, just pick what looks good to you and be happy.
It is nice to see how capable these modern trucks are compared to trucks just 5 years ago. There used to be a big spread in performance and such, having all the journalists subject these trucks to testing really has made all the companies tighten up in competition.
That is on a fairly modest gradiant, yes high elevation, but modest gradiant. Some of the gradients elsewhere are much more severe. Brake fade would be spectacular.SidecarFlip wrote:
Something I find interesting, one of my friends has a new Chevy Silverado Duramax 3/4 ton and his tailgate (steel) weighs maybe half of what mine weighs. He borrowed my Quad a few months ago and my loading ramps and bent his tailgate loading the quad. real strong' stuff there I'd say. I found it funny in a way. I've never had an issue loading my quad in my Ford.
They build them thinner and cheaper every year but the price keeps climbing.
Your friend must've done something very wrong or there was a problem with his.
I've got plenty of friends who bed load their big bore quads (850lbs +), myself included, in their modern truck and no one has ever had an issue with a tailgate.
So no, I don't agree with your opinion.- Nothing melted or broke. Both winners.
- Pickup trucks today cost as much as our farm did 30 years ago and the farm makes money.
They are all overpriced.
Guess that is why I still have my 97 F350. Besides, it has no rust and runs good.
I don't have a tailgate step, I use an inverted 5 gallon bucket.
I don't have DEF, no worries there, no emissions stuff to go bad at all.
I have minimal electronics to fail.
My diesel smokes. If it didn't something is a miss.
My 97 gets 21 empty, 16 pulling and 19 with my TC in the bed.
It's been paid for, for so long, I cannot remember when it wasn't paid for.
If it breaks (which is rare), I can fix it myself.
I', real happy with an old school truck and it always gets comments about how good it looks. People appreciate old school OBS Ford pickup trucks.
At 67, I don't plan on buying another This one has been mine since 1997, a 21 year love affair.
Something I find interesting, one of my friends has a new Chevy Silverado Duramax 3/4 ton and his tailgate (steel) weighs maybe half of what mine weighs. He borrowed my Quad a few months ago and my loading ramps and bent his tailgate loading the quad. real strong' stuff there I'd say. I found it funny in a way. I've never had an issue loading my quad in my Ford.
They build them thinner and cheaper every year but the price keeps climbing. SidecarFlip wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
No Ram? Must've had it at the end waiting to take home the broken trucks!
Probably puked on the way there.......:p
LOL :Dspoon059 wrote:
BB_TX wrote:
I personally think that the GM bumper notch is the best, least intrusive design. I like it better than a step that hangs down by the bumper or a contraption in the tailgate that doesn't allow you to flat load things over the tailgate.
Now Chevy has that odd looking notch in the corner of the bumper.
I am going to assume you have never actually seen the Ford tailgate step as it is inside the tailgate and cannot even be seen until you pull it straight back out of the tailgate and let it drop down. And you can definitely flat load things over it that are longer than the bed since the tailgate is flat with the bed, with the step in or out.- Wow GM spends a lot of money making cheesy over scripted ads. They should take some of that money and invest it in their design team to change the butt ugly location of that DEF tank and under hood fill which is a PIA. Oh and the interiors are pretty bad too. Who cares about a drag race while pulling 10k lbs?! if that ad sold you on getting a chevy you've got issues.
spoon059 wrote:
BB_TX wrote:
I personally think that the GM bumper notch is the best, least intrusive design. I like it better than a step that hangs down by the bumper or a contraption in the tailgate that doesn't allow you to flat load things over the tailgate.
Now Chevy has that odd looking notch in the corner of the bumper.
Sure it does. It is completely flat on the new trucks. But I also have no troubles loading things flat with the old design.
