otrfun wrote:
3 tons wrote:
IMHO, a diesel engine is hands down superior in a truck pulling or carrying a heavy load, but to be objective about it one must consider (at least under the U.S. EPA rules) the life expectancy of the diesel’s individual emissions devices and the associated cost of replacement once the factory warranty expires...Oddly, I never see this important aspect a part of these discussions...
The post warranty replacement (at who knows what mileage ??) of a sooted-up turbo, DPF, SCR, EGR Cooler/valve, and uber costly injectors don’t come cheap (from nasty experience...) and should be factored in when considering the true reliability and longevity of a diesel...Just Saying...
x1. I might add, at least with the Ram Cummins, the OEM extended warranties do not cover the DPF and several other emission devices. Once the emissions warranty expires (8yr/80k??) you're on your own. I believe it costs $2k - $4k to replace a DPF or SCR. A 3rd party warranty may be a better option if you want coverage on these items. FWIW, I've heard you can get a DPF cut-open, cleaned, and welded back together for about a 1/3 the cost of a new one.
Great point Sir, I have little doubt that the core engine component of most diesels is capable of lasting 300 + miles without issue, but as you correctly stated it cost a small fortune to have these various emission devices replaced and I’ve had several fail (some under warranty, some not - $$), beginning at about 70k miles... From my perspective DEF has made things better, but nowadays these gremlins should also be considered when fairly comparing gas to diesel...Depending on one’s hauling needs, diesel may still be justifiable...JMO
