Jay Leno predicts demise of vehicles running on gas.

Bert Ackerman wrote:

Reisender wrote:


Just sayin. Businesses will adapt or die.

Just sayin. (I love those words).

You can wish, hope, and write paragraphs until you're blue in the face about business economics. In the late 80s and 90s RVs started growing in size with more powered amenities, and more and more 50 amp services. Most campgrounds have yet to adapt to that right up until today. They did not die.

State and Fed facilities may put in a charging station or two somwhere, but the day of charging your Tesla semi based class A while running 3 15K AC's, the convection oven, and the dryer right at the campsite, is a long way off at most places. You might find an upscale parkinglotesque resort in some select area that will accommodate it, but in the real world where the common folk live good luck.

While I agree many CG's have not added 50 amp services. Any CG that has remodeled since that era have added 50 amp sites.
There are now a few state and federal parks with 50 amp sites.

I am also certain there are many more 50 amp sites available now than in the early 90's.
The same scenario exist in houses as well once upon a time 100 amp service was adequate in a house. However as A/C became mainstream and and power consumption started to grow 200 amp service became the new standard.
The grid and existing homes were retrofitted to provide additional power. Again I agree business will adapt to meet the needs of the times or they will cease to exist
Many,many CG's have adapted and offer at least a few 50 amp sites to meet the needs of their clientele.
Yes there are CG's without 50 amp service that are fine. For the most part they are the only game in town
However most private CG's in that I frequent offer at least some 50 amp service. The CG that I frequent that do not have 50 amp service are all state parks.

I imagine EV infrastructure will spread in the same manner as 50 amp sites.
A proactive condo, apartment or CG will not install 100 new outlets at once.But they may add 2-3,or 5-10 outlets to meet demand.
As demand increases they will add more outlets accordingly.
Business must/will adapt to meet demand.

Reisender wrote:


Just sayin. Businesses will adapt or die.

Just sayin. (I love those words).

You can wish, hope, and write paragraphs until you're blue in the face about business economics. In the late 80s and 90s RVs started growing in size with more powered amenities, and more and more 50 amp services. Most campgrounds have yet to adapt to that right up until today. They did not die.

State and Fed facilities may put in a charging station or two somwhere, but the day of charging your Tesla semi based class A while running 3 15K AC's, the convection oven, and the dryer right at the campsite, is a long way off at most places. You might find an upscale parkinglotesque resort in some select area that will accommodate it, but in the real world where the common folk live good luck.

Reisender wrote:

Bert Ackerman wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


Take a number, it's that line snaking through the I-80 and back after JB Hunt, CR England, CH Robinson, lol.:D;)

Most public federal and state, and a lot of private campgrounds, have been operating on electrical systems that were installed 20,30 or more years ago. There is no shortage of posts here, there, and on RV boards or websites in general where you need this dogbone, an autoformer, or whatever to even be able to turn on part of what you have in your rig. Now all of these places are going to upgrade systems, at an astronomical cost, so you can charge up the motorhome that you can not currently run all 3 air conditioners, that runs on fossil fuel to get from point A to B, and do it on electricity?


OK.

Some of you folks have lost it.

Well, like any business they will meet the demands of their clients or go out of business. Let’s say in 10 years 3 percent of Motorhomes are Electric. Those customers will go to RV parks that cater to their needs. An RV park doesn’t need to upgrade their whole campground, just maybe 5 percent. It’s no different than a Hotel now. If you are a business class hotel in San Franciso or Seattle or Vancouver or Amsterdam or Berlin or Oslo or wherever, and you don’t have destination charging for EV’s you are dealing with a continuously decreasing client base. Most of us who own EV’s won’t even consider a Hotel unless it shows up on the EV hotel app. That’s kinda why so many hotels are adding destination charge facilities.

Just sayin. Businesses will adapt or die.

Remember the introduction of cable TV?

Those screaming neons on the highways saying their hotel-motel has cable. Those who don't got skipped by potential customers?

And now, it's free Wifi. Also now standard as water and shore power on private campsites.

Not hard to imagine that next will be superchargers.

Remember Jay Leno is expressing his opinion, and we all know about opinions, every body has one!:B

Bert Ackerman wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

timmac wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


The news said, $150,000 for the 300 mile range and $180,000 for the 500-600 miles.

That's not to bad of a price for a chassis that could be made into a motorhome that never needs gas/diesel, oil changes, tune ups, filters, exhaust, ect, etc..

I want one... :C

Take a number, it's that line snaking through the I-80 and back after JB Hunt, CR England, CH Robinson, lol.:D;)

Most public federal and state, and a lot of private campgrounds, have been operating on electrical systems that were installed 20,30 or more years ago. There is no shortage of posts here, there, and on RV boards or websites in general where you need this dogbone, an autoformer, or whatever to even be able to turn on part of what you have in your rig. Now all of these places are going to upgrade systems, at an astronomical cost, so you can charge up the motorhome that you can not currently run all 3 air conditioners, that runs on fossil fuel to get from point A to B, and do it on electricity?


OK.

Some of you folks have lost it.

Well, like any business they will meet the demands of their clients or go out of business. Let’s say in 10 years 3 percent of Motorhomes are Electric. Those customers will go to RV parks that cater to their needs. An RV park doesn’t need to upgrade their whole campground, just maybe 5 percent. It’s no different than a Hotel now. If you are a business class hotel in San Franciso or Seattle or Vancouver or Amsterdam or Berlin or Oslo or wherever, and you don’t have destination charging for EV’s you are dealing with a continuously decreasing client base. Most of us who own EV’s won’t even consider a Hotel unless it shows up on the EV hotel app. That’s kinda why so many hotels are adding destination charge facilities.

Just sayin. Businesses will adapt or die.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

timmac wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


The news said, $150,000 for the 300 mile range and $180,000 for the 500-600 miles.

That's not to bad of a price for a chassis that could be made into a motorhome that never needs gas/diesel, oil changes, tune ups, filters, exhaust, ect, etc..

I want one... :C

Take a number, it's that line snaking through the I-80 and back after JB Hunt, CR England, CH Robinson, lol.:D;)

Most public federal and state, and a lot of private campgrounds, have been operating on electrical systems that were installed 20,30 or more years ago. There is no shortage of posts here, there, and on RV boards or websites in general where you need this dogbone, an autoformer, or whatever to even be able to turn on part of what you have in your rig. Now all of these places are going to upgrade systems, at an astronomical cost, so you can charge up the motorhome that you can not currently run all 3 air conditioners, that runs on fossil fuel to get from point A to B, and do it on electricity?


OK.

Some of you folks have lost it.

timmac wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


The news said, $150,000 for the 300 mile range and $180,000 for the 500-600 miles.

That's not to bad of a price for a chassis that could be made into a motorhome that never needs gas/diesel, oil changes, tune ups, filters, exhaust, ect, etc..

I want one... :C

Take a number, it's that line snaking through the I-80 and back after JB Hunt, CR England, CH Robinson, lol.:D;)

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:


The news said, $150,000 for the 300 mile range and $180,000 for the 500-600 miles.

That's not to bad of a price for a chassis that could be made into a motorhome that never needs gas/diesel, oil changes, tune ups, filters, exhaust, ect, etc..

I want one... :C

Reisender wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

colliehauler wrote:
Well for very large 5er's that already use a MDT the Tesla semi might just be the ticket. Besides no more idling Diesels in the campground.

And you'll be charging with shore power while resting overnight on campsites where they provide a supercharger.

I think campground charging would be suitable for certain types of RVers. Some (including us) commonly travel half a day or so and then hang out for a few days or even a week and experience the area. That kind of recreational travelling would suit RV park or campground charging well. A standard Nema 14-50 plug can provide 240 kw per day. Campgrounds wanting to attract this kind of customer could install a secondary Nema 14-50 outlet or even a J1772 charge station with swipe card activation. Essentially a secondary revenue stream.

You know your stuff.;)

There is an opportunity for you to do it in the near future in your own little piece of paradise.

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

colliehauler wrote:
Well for very large 5er's that already use a MDT the Tesla semi might just be the ticket. Besides no more idling Diesels in the campground.

And you'll be charging with shore power while resting overnight on campsites where they provide a supercharger.

I think campground charging would be suitable for certain types of RVers. Some (including us) commonly travel half a day or so and then hang out for a few days or even a week and experience the area. That kind of recreational travelling would suit RV park or campground charging well. A standard Nema 14-50 plug can provide 240 kw per day. Campgrounds wanting to attract this kind of customer could install a secondary Nema 14-50 outlet or even a J1772 charge station with swipe card activation. Essentially a secondary revenue stream.