Keeping Things Cold on the Road

jaycocreek wrote:
Awe shucks Larry,didn't know you wanted RV fires especially by the frig..Here ya go buddy...



Huntindog-

When Jeff Smith was running Smiths Food King there were NO cooler alarms,atleast in the Idaho stores and all the stores were not 24/7.

Yep another completely useless post designed only to fan the flames and try and introduce scare tactics. Those well documented refer fires have "ABSOLUTELY NOTHING" to do with the issue of running the refer on propane while traveling and you know that ... or maybe you don't:S:h

Larry

We receive hundreds of claims a year that are due to refrigerator fires caused by malfunctions in the fridge’s cooling system. A rig can burn up in minutes as a result of these malfunctions.

Cooling unit failures are due to overheating issues typically caused by 'off level' operation which doesn't occur while in transit.
And 'fridge' fires.....majority are electric wiring issues not from propane usage.
Don't go to sleep with that propane on....yikes!

Also be sure to follow these basic guidelines:

Never paint your tank a dark color.
Be sure your oven or stove burners are completely off when not in use.
Make sure your engine and any propane appliances are turned off before refueling.
Be certain that older propane tanks have an overfill protection device.
Check exhaust and intake vents for any blockages.
Install a propane gas detector.
Do not drive with your refrigerator running on the propane setting.

Paint.....The law "as temperature increases, volume increases" applies.
Dark (Non Reflective) Propane Tank = Absorbed Heat = Propane Expansion = Relief Valve May Open

Stove/oven off when not in use.......DUH :S

Engine/propane appliances off refueling.......common sense and posted at fuel pumps

Older propane having OPDs.........required by law on 4# to 40# cylinders manufactured after Sept. 30, 1998 and on ALL 4# to 40# cylinders after April 1, 2002

Exhaust/intakes clear......yeah otherwise the natural draft for proper cooling can not happen

Propane gas detector..... Per standard ANSI A119.2 as required by the RVIA.

Running fridge on propane while in transit......AGAIN personal preference. Both Norcold & Dometic reference to it being OK as rocking motion of RV will keep coolant flowing.
NO laws/restrictions on using it while in transit.........only restrictions while on ferry/certain tunnels/fuel stations

AGAIN personal preference to do so or not.
Any other 'stories' are just that. Urban tales not based in fact.

You won't find many truckers shutting off their engines when refueling.

Good Sam VIP insurance gets alot of claims and refrigerator fires and leaks is rated #2 behind blowouts.

Here is what they have to say: Note the last recommendation..Do not drive with the refrigerator on the propane setting.

2. Refrigerator Fires and Propane Leaks

We receive hundreds of claims a year that are due to refrigerator fires caused by malfunctions in the fridge’s cooling system. A rig can burn up in minutes as a result of these malfunctions.

When it comes to the refrigerator in your rig, familiarize yourself with the make/model and always be on the lookout for recalls. The experts at Good Sam VIP stay in contact with propane appliance manufacturers, and you should too. Bookmark the Web site of the manufacturer that made your RV refrigerator, for example, and periodically go online to check for recalls or other safety information. If you attend RV shows or “rallies,” stop by the booths of RV manufacturers and ask if there are any recalls that pertain to your fridge.

Also be sure to follow these basic guidelines:

Never paint your tank a dark color.
Be sure your oven or stove burners are completely off when not in use.
Make sure your engine and any propane appliances are turned off before refueling.
Be certain that older propane tanks have an overfill protection device.
Check exhaust and intake vents for any blockages.
Install a propane gas detector.
Do not drive with your refrigerator running on the propane setting.

2oldman wrote:

Lynda Singer Island wrote:
.. I am surprised at the off-topic responses; I thought RVers were all-around 'happy campers.' Is this thread typical??

Anything even tangential to running the refer while driving will end up this way. Same with generator noise and staying at Walmart. Time after time, day in and day out, ad infinitum.

RVers usually are happy campers, when camping. Just not so much here.

Don't forget tires and night lights.

Lynda Singer Island wrote:
.. I am surprised at the off-topic responses; I thought RVers were all-around 'happy campers.' Is this thread typical??

Anything even tangential to running the refer while driving will end up this way. Same with generator noise and staying at Walmart. Time after time, day in and day out, ad infinitum.

RVers usually are happy campers, when camping. Just not so much here.

Looks like a wheel bearing fire to me.

And Woodalls is hardly an expert on propane.
Not even in the same class as propane mfg.
They can't even get a cg properly rated/listed

Personal preference....I use propane
You.....do what is best for you

But please......stop with the bogus scare tactics. They are ridiculous and make you come across as ignorant

Awe shucks Larry,didn't know you wanted RV fires especially by the frig..Here ya go buddy...



Huntindog-

When Jeff Smith was running Smiths Food King there were NO cooler alarms,atleast in the Idaho stores and all the stores were not 24/7.

jaycocreek wrote:
Hey Coleman... Thought you blocked me....

Now, if you read properly I said in my off months of logging I worked at several grocery stores. Rather than draw unemployment through the winter I chose to come out of the woods in my younger years and work the grocery stores as they always needed help.I would rather work than just set around drawing benefits. Logging in Idaho is a 6-7 month job depending on weather.

First you have to understand logging in Idaho which I doubt you have a clue...

One of my logging trucks in McCall Idaho where I lived and worked.



I strongly suggest if you have a beef with me you do it through the private message part of this forum rather than snipe like a child at my every post to keep the forum productive.

Have a nice day.

I have made the grocery industry a career. Started in 1981, full time.
I can understand, why someone who picked it up part time isnt aware of how things are done.
BTW, Albertsons, Smiths, and food king are not really small time. We were owned by Smiths at one time,then. Kroger bought it all. All of the chains use alarm systems. Most have for quite awhile.

My contribution to this was .meant to point out how seriously
the industry takes this issue. And how it is the consumers responsibility to take it the rest of the way.

As the OP in this thread I must say it's been entertaining. I posted the question on my first day with RV.Net. This is our first foray away from tenting and I am surprised at the off-topic responses; I thought RVers were all-around 'happy campers.' Is this thread typical??