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boosTT
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May 03, 2012

Keystone Outback Loft (2 story TT)... What ever happened?

The seccond floor popup seams like a great idea. It was discontinued after 2 years? Anyone know why? I think it may have been difficult to unlatch the popup roof?
  • I toured one in person a few months ago. Heres what I found:
    The shower doesen't have a dome, so the shower ceiling is very low.
    AC is the loft area would be a problem. The loft area has a lot of zippered windows though.
    You need to crawl in the loft area to latch/unlatch the roof.
    Unit had a soft spot in the floor right were the floor vent by the bathroom was. I read online someone else had a soft spot in this exact same place. I think it's from the lack of a brace near the vent and not rot.
  • Well since you're in MI then would agree that your basement is just a big hole in the ground? If they install it correctly (just like a well built basement) it shouldn't be a problem.
  • I thought it was a great idea. But, with 6 kids even the loft didn't give us enough space.

    My wife wasn't fond of the "master BR" being a garage, I thought that with the use of an area rug it was a great use of space.

    Having come from a HTT background I did have questions about how secure the canvas is/was at the bottom. And yes, I did have one son push another right out of one of the bunks on our hybrid - even though the snaps and velcro were sealed. The fall out of the bunk was bad enough, off the top of the TT would be really rough ;)
  • Coming from a pop-up with canvas sides I don't understand all the concern with rain. We don't usually camp in the dead heat of summer either so A/C was never a concern...I never even had it installed on the Jayco.
    As far as heat, well I've read reviews that you just keep the top down.
    If you can't fit everyone without the top being up then I could see how that wouldn't be a viable option for you.
    We usually only use ours in the winter while deer hunting so the whole family isn't an issue. I just love the loft idea so much I'm willing to sacrifice some.
  • I looked at one, and my impression was that is really wasn't useable for us unless the loft was up, so;
    1) in the rain????
    2) in the heat, added AC load
    3) in the winter, added furnace load

    given typical western oregon weather it didn't make much sense for us.

    But I have to give Keystone and Outback credit for being inovative and giving it a try.
  • I'm looking at these again right now actually.
    I love the loft idea and can't believe they stopped making them, but I heard people comment that they made a nice RV cheap by adding the pop-up loft...again I've always loved them.
    I sure wish I'd have bought a new one when dealers were blowing them out for under $20,000!
    Does anyone know how many of these were manufactured in the 2 years of production?
    Well for now the search goes on.
  • Products that don't sell well don't last. This one probably didn't have many takers and died a quick death.
  • Wow that's an awesome idea! Shame they don't make it anymore.