King of the beasts test (RAM 3500 vs F450)

goducks10 wrote:
Weight is weight. It's all relevant. Only difference between a 40' 5'er and pallets of bricks is the wind drag. They would likely get the same results either way.

My 37', 15,000 lb toy hauler pulls much harder at highway speed than an 18,000 lb gooseneck. This I know from experience. I think the comparison is fair and agree that in the real world many more people are towing a high profile trailer over mountain passes than are towing low profile loads like a gooseneck. Although I will agree that the difference between the trucks should show regardless of the trailer as long as they are towing the same thing.

4.30 rear gear should win. Winning isn't everything.
chevman

kjandjosh wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks testing a 3500 against a 450 is goofy?

Hears an idea, why not test a 3500 against an F350? :h

I dont think the F350 can pull that much. That is why they are using the F450. I could be wrong though.

When I read the article it sounded more like an ad for the trailers then anything else. But that is just me.

Thought we all agreed ,that F250 -3500 -1/2 ton were all meaningless designations.
GVWR is king

720Deere wrote:

goducks10 wrote:
Weight is weight. It's all relevant. Only difference between a 40' 5'er and pallets of bricks is the wind drag. They would likely get the same results either way.

My 37', 15,000 lb toy hauler pulls much harder at highway speed than an 18,000 lb gooseneck. This I know from experience. I think the comparison is fair and agree that in the real world many more people are towing a high profile trailer over mountain passes than are towing low profile loads like a gooseneck. Although I will agree that the difference between the trucks should show regardless of the trailer as long as they are towing the same thing.

Yep going down a highway it's all about aerodynamics, going up a hill is where the weight comes in!

Turtle n Peps wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks testing a 3500 against a 450 is goofy?

Hears an idea, why not test a 3500 against an F350? :h

No....no your not. Ford's advertising magazine knew the F-350 couldn't out tow the Ram so they had to bring in a ringer. They pulled the same garbage when they tested a 2015 Ford F-350 not in production truck against the 2014 GM and Ram 3500 trucks.

PT.com is a joke IMO

Don

Glad someone asked the 3500 vs 450 question. I was ready to chime in.

sigh

The reasoning of picking the F-450 against the RAM 3500 is all about tow weight. The RAM 3500 is rated to tow 30,000 lbs while the F-450 is rated at 24,500. So they were just trying to pick the closest vehicles they could. RAM just decided the 1-ton was good at 30,000 lbs. Really still far apart even though the Ford is supposedly a higher capacity truck.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Turtle n Peps wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks testing a 3500 against a 450 is goofy?

Hears an idea, why not test a 3500 against an F350? :h

No....no your not. Ford's advertising magazine knew the F-350 couldn't out tow the Ram so they had to bring in a ringer. They pulled the same garbage when they tested a 2015 Ford F-350 not in production truck against the 2014 GM and Ram 3500 trucks.

PT.com is a joke IMO

Don

Don, Don, Don
They are pulling like 26k lbs :E
They (PT.com) will not go over the ratings so the F350 DRW wouldn't cut the mustard. Either did the Chevy.
To have a test each competitor needed to have the correct ratings, plain and simple. Ford didn't cheat, either did GM. Ram did :B
This 2013 HD Ram is by no means a 3500 truck any longer. A better test would have been the 3500 SRW Ram vs the other guys DRW's 3500's.
I'm pretty certain you won't be calling them a JOKE come Monday buddy.
Mark is doing a fine job replacing the other blue guy employed at Ford now.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Turtle n Peps wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks testing a 3500 against a 450 is goofy?

Hears an idea, why not test a 3500 against an F350? :h

No....no your not. Ford's advertising magazine knew the F-350 couldn't out tow the Ram so they had to bring in a ringer. They pulled the same garbage when they tested a 2015 Ford F-350 not in production truck against the 2014 GM and Ram 3500 trucks.

PT.com is a joke IMO

Don

The Ram truck was a 2013 that competed against the 2015 Ford that isn't in production yet.