Lets Clarify: F250 Fifth Wheel Set-up
Long time lurker, admitted newbie. Hypothetical Situation: F250 SRW Crew Cab 4x4, 156" wheel base (shorter box version) GVWR 9900 Max Payload 3150 Max 5th wheel tow rating 15,900 ...
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I'll be frank and say I don't know the empty weight of the F250 in question. You state max payload 3,150. Is this correct?? There should be a label in the drivers door jamb that says something like "the maximum weight of passengers and cargo should not exceed XXXX lbs" XXXX equals the actual payload capacity for your truck. That's your starting point.
I think donn0128 has way too much of a fudge factor built in (only real way to know is to weigh everything). I also don't know where you got the trailer weights (brochure or from the actual label on the trailer in question). I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 quad cab with CTD, so not the same vehicle by any stretch.
My empty truck is 6,477#. My empty fiver is 10,606# based on label on trailer. Total is 17,083#. With the wife and I both in truck (about 400#) and the trailer loaded we pulled into the CAT scales. I was apprehensive and a little worried. The CAT scale weights were 4,300# on front axle (FAWR is 4,750), 5,520 on rear axle (RAWR is 6,010), and 9,120 on trailer axles for a total of 18,940#. If we subtract total empty weight of 17,083# from loaded weight it means that all passengers and cargo in truck and trailer combined was 1,857#. We are OK even if we do load another few hundred lbs of stuff.
Now you may load very heavy, I just don't know. My fiver is a 2014 Columbus (Palomino by FR). Since I know the empty weights of my truck axles, I know the pin weight and cargo weights added 673# to my trucks front axle and 2,668# to my trucks rear axle. The brochure pin weight on my fiver is 1,940#. The loaded trailer was 11,788#.
My point is donn0128 may be right if you pack really heavy, but may be way too heavy if you pack relatively light like us. I'm guessing the 1857# of cargo was 400# people, 125# misc stuff in truck, 200# Superglide 5th wheel hitch, which leaves about 1,132# of stuff in our trailer. I admit to packing relatively light, even though my cargo weight does include about 100# for an inflatable boat.
Donn0128 says 3,500 lbs for stuff over dry weight, my actual is far less. I thought giving you my actual weights on a heavier trailer may help. Now the actual label on that trailer may be heavier if you are using brochure weights, so take it for what its worth. Hope this helps.
I think donn0128 has way too much of a fudge factor built in (only real way to know is to weigh everything). I also don't know where you got the trailer weights (brochure or from the actual label on the trailer in question). I have a 2008 Dodge 2500 quad cab with CTD, so not the same vehicle by any stretch.
My empty truck is 6,477#. My empty fiver is 10,606# based on label on trailer. Total is 17,083#. With the wife and I both in truck (about 400#) and the trailer loaded we pulled into the CAT scales. I was apprehensive and a little worried. The CAT scale weights were 4,300# on front axle (FAWR is 4,750), 5,520 on rear axle (RAWR is 6,010), and 9,120 on trailer axles for a total of 18,940#. If we subtract total empty weight of 17,083# from loaded weight it means that all passengers and cargo in truck and trailer combined was 1,857#. We are OK even if we do load another few hundred lbs of stuff.
Now you may load very heavy, I just don't know. My fiver is a 2014 Columbus (Palomino by FR). Since I know the empty weights of my truck axles, I know the pin weight and cargo weights added 673# to my trucks front axle and 2,668# to my trucks rear axle. The brochure pin weight on my fiver is 1,940#. The loaded trailer was 11,788#.
My point is donn0128 may be right if you pack really heavy, but may be way too heavy if you pack relatively light like us. I'm guessing the 1857# of cargo was 400# people, 125# misc stuff in truck, 200# Superglide 5th wheel hitch, which leaves about 1,132# of stuff in our trailer. I admit to packing relatively light, even though my cargo weight does include about 100# for an inflatable boat.
Donn0128 says 3,500 lbs for stuff over dry weight, my actual is far less. I thought giving you my actual weights on a heavier trailer may help. Now the actual label on that trailer may be heavier if you are using brochure weights, so take it for what its worth. Hope this helps.
