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LJCamper
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Feb 21, 2015

Llightweight TT to tow with Toyota Sequoia-Passport 2890RL?

I'm going to retire in 2 years and am looking to upgrade from my 2010 Starcraft Travel Star Expandable. I have a 2011 Toyota Sequoia Platinum and would like to stay with that (used to be 9100 towing capacity before SAE-J2807 standard and is now 7000). I want a floor plan with 2 chairs, sofa bed and 1 queen bed (and slide(s) for more space). Looking at the Keystone Passport 2890RL because it's the lowest dry weight unit I can find that has my preferred floor plan. Dry weight is 5390.
1. Any concerns about towing capacity?
2. Is the 2890RL a quality brand/model? Other suggestions?
3. What's a fair price to pay for the 2890RL?
4. Any idea what my 2010 Starcraft Travel Star Expandable (in like-new) condition is worth?

Please help. I am a newbie at all of this and just trying to research my way through. Thanks so much!
  • I think you should be fine, especially if you have the tow package. I have a 2008 Tundra, same motor, trans and chassis as your Sequoia and my TT is 5600 dry. It tows fine over the hills of southern Oregon.

    The only brief moment of worry on a recent trip was on a short section of highway that is literally a few yards from the beach. Very windy, but I don't have an anti sway, only WD.
  • There are a lot of ratings Toyota has for your Sequoia. Payload may be a limit for you under the tow rating. Half ton SUVs have 11000-1700 pounds of payload. This has to support the weight of people and cargo and trailer tongue weight. Since you are shopping rear living rooms, then I guess you are a traveling couple, not a large family. Payload may not be a problem for you. If not, then that looks like a good match.
  • Sounds like a good combo but you WILL need a good sway control/weight distribution hitch, and a good brake controller.
  • LJCamper wrote:
    I'm going to retire in 2 years and am looking to upgrade from my 2010 Starcraft Travel Star Expandable. I have a 2011 Toyota Sequoia Platinum and would like to stay with that (used to be 9100 towing capacity before SAE-J2807 standard and is now 7000). I want a floor plan with 2 chairs, sofa bed and 1 queen bed (and slide(s) for more space). Looking at the Keystone Passport 2890RL because it's the lowest dry weight unit I can find that has my preferred floor plan. Dry weight is 5390.
    1. Any concerns about towing capacity?
    2. Is the 2890RL a quality brand/model? Other suggestions?
    3. What's a fair price to pay for the 2890RL?
    4. Any idea what my 2010 Starcraft Travel Star Expandable (in like-new) condition is worth?

    Please help. I am a newbie at all of this and just trying to research my way through. Thanks so much!


    The Lance 2285 has everything your looking for, except the sofa bed, but the dinette makes into a nice size bed.Two rockers in place of the sofa is an option. The Sequoia would be a great fit. GVWR 6000 lbs.
    Lance 2285

    I think the Keystone has a GVWR of 7,200 lbs. It will work but you will really have to watch the payload. My opinion a little too much trailer for your Sequoia.
  • This will be our 7th season towing with our '08 Sequoia. Our TT is about 6,000 lbs. loaded for a trip and the Sequoia is more than up to the task. As others have noted be sure to keep tabs on the tongue weight so you don't exceed the payload limit. Enjoy & safe travels.
  • I tow with the same Sequoia you do, except a 2010. For a "couples" TT, you have a ton of options out there. You could play it safe and shop by Gross Trailer weight and stay under 7,000lbs and still find plenty of options. Or look for dry/unloaded weights between 5-6klbs and also be plenty "safe".

    FYI, its not weight to be concerned about. Our 5.7 is a BEAST. Its the overall size you want to be cautious of. (Length and even width is something to consider if you are shopping)

    You have a fantastic SUV for towing, unless you're towing all year round and nationally. Then and only then, would I say look for something larger and more powerful.
  • Rear living room trailers can have a very high tongue load. It would be wise to check what the tongue load will be compared to the payload rating of your TV.
  • westend wrote:
    Edmunds.com lists maximum towing weight of 6900 lbs (properly equipped) and payload max of 1280 lbs.


    Edmunds eh? Thanks.

    Toyota says 7200lbs for the Platinum and 7400lbs for other models, reduced just like the OP said, due to the new SAE spec.

    2010 and prior, the rating is 9200lbs, which is what my manual says.

    Payload is correct at 1280lbs. For a traveling retired couple, I don't see an issue with payload if they don't pack the rear of the SUV with too much.
  • LJCamper wrote:
    ---Looking at the Keystone Passport 2890RL because it's the lowest dry weight unit I can find that has my preferred floor plan. Dry weight is 5390.
    1. Any concerns about towing capacity?---
    I would not be concerned about pulling capacity, but I would be concerned about carrying capacity.

    The TIRE AND LOADING INFORMATION sticker (probably found on the drivers door edge or pillar) will give a maximum allowable weight for passengers and cargo.
    This is your "allowable payload" value. It might or might not be equal to the 1280# value obtained from Edmunds.com.

    We can estimate some weights for occupants and cargo and see how much remaining payload capacity is available for trailer-induced vertical load on the TV.

    Occupants -- 300#
    Misc. cargo in TV -- 200#
    Load distributing hitch -- 100#
    Total weight of occupants, misc cargo, and WDH = 600#

    Assuming an actual TT "dry weight" of 5500# (based on dealer website info) and 1000# of cargo added to TT gives an estimated loaded weight of 6500#.
    Assuming a tongue weight percentage of 13% gives an estimated loaded tongue weight of 6500*0.13 = 845#.
    Assuming the WDH will be adjusted to transfer a load equal to 20% of the TW to the TT's axles gives a vertical load of 845*0.8 = 676# added to the TV by the TT.

    The above assumptions give a total added load of 600+676 = 1276#.
    If your TV's allowable payload is 1280#, you would be at 99.7% of capacity.

    You can make your own loading estimates and run them through the above process to see what you obtain.

    Ron