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Just switched from 285/75/16 NITTO's they were a great tire, to 245/80/16 TOYO's set-up on truck changed. I'm very happy with the TOYO's although very different tires than I was running before. Nitto's wore very well, and even, yet quiet till the end. The Toyo's are extremely quiet running, and smooth as silk. I bought from a local distributor/retailer.

http://www.tiresdirect.net/TireSizeSearch.aspx?wheelwidth=265&aspectratio=70&rim=17&brand=TOYO

I replaced the stock Firestone Transforce 265/17R75 with Nitto Terra Grappler 285/70R17 tires to get the additional rear payload capacity of 7500 lbs. and noticed an improved ride and reduced sway with the new tires.

I came across two types of Nitto Terra Grapplers though and one was rated at a much lower load capacity though in the same size. Check the exact capacity of the tire you buy to be sure you get the expected rating and check the sides of the tires before they are installed.

One downside I have noticed with the Nitto Terra Grapplers is that the tread design does a poor job of chucking out gravel picked up on the road. I end up having to use a screwdriver to pry it out after a trip.

butch , I misread your post where you were talking about the OP. Thought the OP had a dually. I would not be comfortable with the 106 weight. That's why I went to a non slide 8' 6' model but hard lesson learned for me when it comes to the rv industry and dry weights. Heaviest 8' 6" model I have seen.

Hey Butch,

I have seen a lot ads for the 86fb and that is the lowest dry weight I have ever seen. Must be one with no options. Most I have seen were way over 2300. My stickers state 2648 and 2698. Are you talking about your TC dry weight? Just trying to clarify. Their is a member here who has been safely hauling a AF 990 for a long time with the same truck and set up. We have PM a few times but I would be nervous carrying a AF 990!!One thing I learned is every ones situation is different and also their comfort level.I am not disagreeing with you at all. I needed tires yesterday though and could not afford 2000 plus for 19.5 visions and tires right now. I am also concerned with the effects the 19.5s will have on the well documented weak 3rd generation dodge front ends. Ford, Dodge, Chevy/GMC trucks all have strengths and weaknesses. If my wet weight is more than I think it is since I pack light and usually just myself. I will upgrade to 19.5s.

billyray50 wrote:
Hey butch50..I just weighed my Adventurer dry was 3060.I traveled close to 14,000 miles with the previous Nitto Terras rated 3750 lbs. on current truck mods and 17 " Forged Aluminum rims loaded. Truck hauled TC like a beast ,never even engaged the bottom overloads with airbags at 5 psi. My truck has a 1 ton axle from factory. Had some minor sway but tried some homemade stable loads with stihl plastic wood wedges and zip ties. Really helped with sway. Will order stable loads for bottom overloads soon. I will weigh truck/camper fully loaded and post weight. If I really need 19.5s visions I will buy them but 3 custom wheels shops told me my forged aluminums, last shop told me they were Alcoa, were strong enough. My Nitto Terras lasted me 45,000 including my last camper too..A 1996 11' shadow cruiser which had a dry weight of 2400 lbs and loaded really engaged my bottom overloads with only 5 psi. did not use airbags back then since they were not plumbed separately at the time. I have to go by my past experience with having no real problems with this wheel/tire set up.

OK but as you stated your camper is 3060 dry and you have a 86Fb and Adventurer states that your dry weight is 2205#. The OP has a 106 that has a brochure dry weight of 3129#. So if we take the difference of your dry from the brochure to your weighed dry weight of 3060# minus your brochure dry weight is 855# heavier. So if we take that 855# and add it to the OP dry weight we would come up with a dry weight of 3984# before the OP added anything to it if equipped with similar equipment as yours.

So his weight is almost a 1000# more than yours. I don't know how close his numbers are to what I have but I would figure that he would have AC and other options that increase the dry weight.

D3500ram,
Your empty numbers is what I am running. In past I used to run Nitto terras with TC on 75 front ...80 in rear. Lasted me 45,000. Maybe I should run fronts loaded lower??

Hey butch50..I just weighed my Adventurer dry was 3060.I traveled close to 14,000 miles with the previous Nitto Terras rated 3750 lbs. on current truck mods and 17 " Forged Aluminum rims loaded. Truck hauled TC like a beast ,never even engaged the bottom overloads with airbags at 5 psi. My truck has a 1 ton axle from factory. Had some minor sway but tried some homemade stable loads with stihl plastic wood wedges and zip ties. Really helped with sway. Will order stable loads for bottom overloads soon. I will weigh truck/camper fully loaded and post weight. If I really need 19.5s visions I will buy them but 3 custom wheels shops told me my forged aluminums, last shop told me they were Alcoa, were strong enough. My Nitto Terras lasted me 45,000 including my last camper too..A 1996 11' shadow cruiser which had a dry weight of 2400 lbs and loaded really engaged my bottom overloads with only 5 psi. did not use airbags back then since they were not plumbed separately at the time. I have to go by my past experience with having no real problems with this wheel/tire set up.

With a camper dry weight of 3129# from their web site (which we all know is a joke) you might want to look at 19.5 tires and wheels. I put them on my F350 11200# GVWR rated truck and they are rated at 4850# tires and the Vision wheels are rated at 4500#. This gives me a cushion that I wanted as I didn't want to be on the edge of what I had. The tires are 16 ply rated trucks and the truck handles my camper very well. My cmaper is not as heavy as yours is. Wet and loaded I'm right at 3700#

Just a thought.

billyray50 wrote:
... Noticed a big difference in handling with Durra's. More of a highway tire than the Nittos I had on previously. ...

Were the previous ones the Terra Grapplers? I think my TG's handle very well but I need a more aggressive tread for my locale. I am sure that I too would notice a difference with a more mild, hiway tread.

BTW- what PSI are planning on running? I run F=65/ R=80 with TC and F=50/ R=40 without camper.

Well got the new Nitto Durra grapplers 285/75r/ 17 10 ply E rated with 3970 lbs. at 80 psi load index installed the other day. Noticed a big difference in handling with Durra's. More of a highway tire than the Nittos I had on previously. Figured since TC is in covered storage to have tires installed I would go ahead and wash and wax the truck for the summer season. What a shoulder workout!!