Lost Title

Gdetrailer wrote:

WTP-GC wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:

WTP-GC wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:


To some folks, unlike YOU $1500 for a 33 yr old travel trailer missing it's most valuable part which IS the title is a very expensive mistake and well worth getting the money back.

If I sell you something "As-Is" with the expressed statement of NO TITLE AVAILABLE, then I will not give you your money back no matter how much you cry about it.

So apparently to you, the $1500 transaction is "Much Ado"; contrary to your previous snarky remarks. In your eyes, You've unloaded a possibly stolen, untitled, white elephant and ain't giving the money back no way, no how.

Come on man, people lose titles everyday.

Total BS and you know it.

Your "perspective" is from FLORIDA, FYI, FLORIDA IS ONLY ONE STATE OUT OF 50, perhaps FL doesn't care.. BUT OTHER states DO CARE and REQUIRE a title to PROVE YOU OWN IT.. Otherwise anyone can simply pull up to YOUR trailer, haul it off and YOU are out of luck and they can reregister it in their name..

I can't help that FL does not care two bits about titles according to you, but I would not bet on it.

People sell things everyday without title.


While it is not illegal in PA to sell a trailer without a title, THE CATCH IS IT CAN NEVER BE LEGALLY TOWED ON PUBLIC ROADS.

That catch makes a travel trailer without a title as useless as a doorstop!

The only legal way a travel trailer can be towed on public roads in PA is if you have a proper clear title, the title must be signed over in front of a Notary at the time of sale in order to be eligible to register it for a plate.

Perhaps in FL you might be able to buy a trailer with no title and get it registered and plated for use on public highways.. But I also highly doubt it is as easy as you say it is, otherwise what would stop folks from randomly stealing a trailer and registering it as theirs?


It takes one heck of a leap in perception to automatically believe its stolen property.

RV trailers DO get stolen, happens more than you would think, sometimes for scrap, sometimes to resale, sometimes for meth shacks..

Ever wonder why folks buy tongue locks, chain tires and wheels, remove a wheel, place something in front of trailer hard to move?

Takes one heck of an imagination to believe 100% of the worlds population is a straight shooter and would never steal something or one must have their head stuck in a sand dune..

I've got an old aluminum boat sitting at our farm that we haven't had a title or registration for in years, and I can assure you its not stolen.

Good for you, I live in a very rural area but I HAVE had $25 bicycles stolen off a back porch and that was back in the 1970s..

I buy auction items all the time, and in many cases the description states "no title available, bill of sale only". That international auction company must clearly be in the business of dealing in stolen goods.

Auction companies are only in the business of selling SOMEONE ELSE'S stuff, they do not take time to review every item to verify if it is legit or not. Nor do they warrant or guarantee anything. You the buyer mus decide whether to gamble or not with your money.

You take your chances, sometimes you win and sometimes you lay a goose egg.

And why does the concept of "buyer beware" seemingly not apply in this case?

Most folks who never have delt with buying/selling used TITLED things like vehicles and trailers often UNDERESTIMATE just how much hassle it can be without a title or the importance of having a GOOD CLEAR TITLE OF OWNERSHIP.

The OP took a LEAP OF FAITH that a lost title was not a problem and could simply apply for a lost title. Not sure if that came from the seller or they were naive.

The OP SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED THEIR OWN STATE DMV ON HOW TO GET A LOST TITLE REPLACED BEFORE HANDING OVER ANY MONEY. The OP could have avoided this pit fall by either walking away or having the current owner get their ducks in line and get a title.. Obviously the seller KNEW that getting a replacement title was a hassle OR IMPOSSIBLE, otherwise they would have done the PROPER THING and got it taken care of BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO SELL.

This aint Wal-Mart, and you don't get to return something just because you don't want it anymore. I sold a truck to someone a while back, and it leaked a little oil. So if the day after the sale, he climbs in and hits the road, and the engine blows because it was low on oil, should I give him his money back? Sorry, no warranty offered. Sold as-is, where-is.

Walmart does not "always" take things back, especially without receipts now days.

As far as your truck sale, well you sold it with a title and that IS what the thread is about, not whether it has a oil leak or a blown engine. You are simply redirecting the thread to mold it to your way..

I respect that the OP hasn't tried to deflect blame in this case, but the truth is they should have addressed the title issue PRIOR to making the purchase.

In this I do agree with you and I always point this out EVERY TIME to folks who have posted the same issue as the OPs. One must be aware of how their state handles legal documents of ownership like titles BEFORE ENTERING ANY SALE OR HANDING OVER MONEY.

Pretty much the rest of your post I cannot agree with.

See my comments in red above..

I could, of course, humor you with a full rebuttal of your post and explain why you're either twisting words or otherwise just trying to foster an argument...but I'll refer only to your first statement where you apparently don't believe people lose titles.

Stroll down to your local health department and see how many people are there to obtain a copy of their (or their children's) birth certificate or immunization records. Maybe you should visit your local DMV and see how many people are there just for a replacement license. As an employer, I can assure you that not everyone knows where their social security card is. All of those items are far more important than a title for a 30+ year old camper. So yeah, people never lose or misplace titles :R

For heck's sake, it took a recent POTUS several months to find his birth certificate.

An old man traded a boat for a camper ump-teen years ago, probably traded with someone he knew, and since he never registered it, he could have cared less about the title. But yeah, my first guess would be that its stolen too :R