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BenK
Dec 06, 2014Explorer
Okay, I'm now a believer in the labels folks have been saying is the
actual weight....don't need anyone to actually weigh and post the ticket
along with the door sticker
Keith is one of my filters....like I generally (100%) end up NOT
liking folks who don't like pets...especially dogs has become one of
my main filters for new folks meeting for the first time
Am not speaking for Keith, but of what he did from my experiences
For those who don't understand this part of any large OEM...Keith
managed a HUGE DB (data base) output via these labels.
How important is that?....HUGE, as the Billions of bucks culminates
contractually in documentation the owner has from the OEM. From the
purchase agreement, door labels, manuals, etc, etc, etc
And how do I know this?...first career was in Industrial Controls,
Automation, Process Controls, Robotics...motor controls. And fourth
career in computing from Eng Program Management to a corporate suit.
Customers would always say the 'problem' is in the production side
of things, but in EVERY case...it is in the design/verification side
The old garbage in, garbage out.
How important is that little label? Well in the production lines I've
been involved with, both designing the process to having my product
made out there..."Line down" is only a push button away for folks like
Keith on any production line. That then notifies everyone up to the CEO
Meaning the liability for the whole corp is really based, in part, in
those labels...that 'DOT', 'UL', etc logo has huge implications behind
them and the big bucks it took to gain certifications from those
regulatory agencies
actual weight....don't need anyone to actually weigh and post the ticket
along with the door sticker
Keith is one of my filters....like I generally (100%) end up NOT
liking folks who don't like pets...especially dogs has become one of
my main filters for new folks meeting for the first time
Am not speaking for Keith, but of what he did from my experiences
For those who don't understand this part of any large OEM...Keith
managed a HUGE DB (data base) output via these labels.
How important is that?....HUGE, as the Billions of bucks culminates
contractually in documentation the owner has from the OEM. From the
purchase agreement, door labels, manuals, etc, etc, etc
And how do I know this?...first career was in Industrial Controls,
Automation, Process Controls, Robotics...motor controls. And fourth
career in computing from Eng Program Management to a corporate suit.
Customers would always say the 'problem' is in the production side
of things, but in EVERY case...it is in the design/verification side
The old garbage in, garbage out.
How important is that little label? Well in the production lines I've
been involved with, both designing the process to having my product
made out there..."Line down" is only a push button away for folks like
Keith on any production line. That then notifies everyone up to the CEO
Meaning the liability for the whole corp is really based, in part, in
those labels...that 'DOT', 'UL', etc logo has huge implications behind
them and the big bucks it took to gain certifications from those
regulatory agencies
kaydeejay wrote:jerem0621 wrote:Hmmm, something wrong here!
I have a question for you. On my phone 2014 Town and Country the tire loading and payload sticker is totally bogus. I scaled it and found a huge discrepancy between GVWR and the available payload. I lost the weight slip so I can't provide that yet. I need to get it re-weighed. But it was hundreds of pounds difference iirc. I have 1100 ish lbs of payload per the door sticker and when we weighed the van we had the entire family in the van and some of our gear so 900 lbs total....I expected to see 200 ish lbs of payload but it was more like 5 or 600 lbs under GVWR
Curious, I started checking out other 2014 Town and Countries, across all trim levels and options I found the payload sticker was exactly the same.
This fact has led me to call the sticker 'silly' and sent me back to the Stone Age where to determine actual payload I will weigh the vehicle and subtract from the GVWR.
Thanks!
Jeremiah
When I was responsible for those stickers it was my understanding that the stated payload had to be accurate within 10# for a given vehicle.
We had a very complex computer process that did the calculations based on vehicle content.
It was the same process used to calculate payment to the vehicle shippers, which was based on weight. You'd better believe they would holler if it was wrong.
I can't speak for Chrysler - maybe you need to ask them!
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