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tdiller wrote:
I understand about the weight of the water and both of these trailers have about 44 gallon tanks. Even with the popup we always found sites with water and electric at least. I can see us becoming spoiled by having or wanting water with us all the time if we don't check ourselves.

This has nothing to do with "checking" yourselves ... rather, keeping the water heater tank full and always carrying a minimal reserve in the fresh water holding tank, say 1/3rd of a tank, means your water system can remain pressurized throughout the season. That's a significant benefit over a popup as doing so means you can use the system anytime, anywhere you want, be it camping or not (especially handy for roadside stops), AND you won't have to go through the nonsense of pressurizing the system before each trip. Other prospective TT owners also claim like you that they'll run without water but that idea flies out the window pretty quickly and they do end up traveling a couple hundred pounds heavier from water alone. Pretty dumb to have a bathroom and kitchen right there but not be able to use them because the water system isn't pressurized. :S

As for those trailer numbers you posted if you link to the specific make, model, year of campers you're considering it would make it a lot easier to estimate just where you'll land in terms of GVW and gross tongue weight with the trailer loaded and ready to camp, and guaranteed - you'll be a lot heavier than you think. :E Obviously it's your choice if you choose to throw caution to the wind but if you take the time to weigh your particular truck with a full tank of gas and hitch equipment mounted and then crunch the numbers against a number of trailers the results may not be as rosy as you seem to think. :D