my first disappointment

dealer today for oil change and running lights.
dealer said they have to contact Dodge and then have to update computer, the add it to my truck. will charge 135.00.

oil change done, they put the next service tag on windshield. showed no return date ( 6months ), but showed only 4000 miles until due. had service come out and he replaced the tag. upon looking it showed I needed to return on 6-11. boy I got 1 month. ya wonder how they stay in business.
does going to independent void any part of warranty

SuperiorBound wrote:
I always drive with my lights on, since 1983

X2 since 1967, I think Old_Biscuit has been doing since like 1963. He is Really Old :B

I always drive with my lights on, since 1983

proxim2020 wrote:

mich800 wrote:

You can turn your fogs on without the low beams?

Yep. The fogs are tied to the running lamp setting. I run fogs only in the daytime when its clear. The headlights come on at dusk or when visibility isn't clear. Perfectly fine here in Texas. Of all the states that I've driven through, I've never been stopped for it. But then again I've haven't towed through Bizarro Land (California) yet.

I cannot imagine getting hassled for it. I just though the switch and to be all the way on to activate the fogs.

mich800 wrote:

You can turn your fogs on without the low beams?

Yep. The fogs are tied to the running lamp setting. I run fogs only in the daytime when its clear. The headlights come on at dusk or when visibility isn't clear. Perfectly fine here in Texas. Of all the states that I've driven through, I've never been stopped for it. But then again I've haven't towed through Bizarro Land (California) yet.

bbaker2001 wrote:
I was told that the daylight running lights only use 50% power of regular lights, this helps them last longer.
I have an appointment on Wednesday. will post after. also the dealer said I needed to change oil every 3 months or 6000 miles for warranty protection
I would like to get that in writing.

Oil change is 6 months or 15k. It is in your owners manual. Fuel filters 15k. You need a new dealer or need to educate the one you have. Chris

transferred wrote:

mich800 wrote:

transferred wrote:
Daytime running lights are neither use nor ornament, particularly the halogen ones. I actually think they are a detrimental to road safety as they give a false sense of a) your headlights actually being on and b) how much they help other vehicles see you. The LED versions are easier to see but, in my opinion, very gauche.

In the interests of safety, just leave your headlights on.

Really, detrimental to road safety. People are subconsciously turning in front of people at unsafe intervals because the other driver should have seen it coming?

Read what I wrote again and this time try to comprehend what was written. It's very clear. I see dozens of cars in heavy rain and fog with just their running lights on, the dash symbol for headlights being on is the same and I think many are mislead by this. So yes, they can be detrimental to road safety. There's a reason many mountain passes say "turn on headlights", they make it almost impossible for cars to blend in with the scenery.

Not sure where I mentioned turning in front of people. Some of you could argue in an empty room, this site is quite a trip ;)

I for one was not aware that Day time running lights didn't light the tail lights how stupid is that! :S

I also drive with headlights on 24/7/366, but there are times when you don't want them, like leaving/arriving in a campground very late or early.

there are those who don't understand the need on sunny days, well dark cars coming out of shadows and shaded areas are very hard to notice. It has just been a habit with all the drivers in my family for life, for me been about 50 years!

Bionic Man wrote:

mich800 wrote:

proxim2020 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
I run with my fog lights on while towing during daylight that way all lights are working other than headlights.

Same here.

You can turn your fogs on without the low beams?

You can turn them on with only your running lights on.

Except they're only "running" lights if your headlights are on too in some states. Without the headlights on they are "parking" lights.

California law on the subject states, "24800. No vehicle shall be driven at any time with the parking lamps lighted except when the lamps are being used as turn signal lamps or when the headlamps are also lighted."

People have been ticketed for driving with their park lights on. If the fog lights are on too that may fulfill the headlight requirement but it seems too much bother to me. I just turn the knob to headlight and drive. The friendly chime will remind me to turn them off if I forget and try to exit the truck with them on.

bbaker2001 wrote:
thanks spoon059. guess I could just turn on the Headlights or use tape.
didn't know that the DRL only lite headlight. wont do me much good. I am looking at how to tap into a hot line. I did look at tapping into the Battery post with a fuse, pretty simple
thanks again all.

If you just want to tap a hot line, tap the #4 pin wire of your 7 pin that goes to your trailer. That's your auxiliary line and I'm pretty sure it will be exactly what you want for your backup camera with your 5er.

mich800 wrote:

proxim2020 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
I run with my fog lights on while towing during daylight that way all lights are working other than headlights.

Same here.

You can turn your fogs on without the low beams?

You can turn them on with only your running lights on.