Vinsil wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
New design = issues. Old design = less issues. Pretty simple far as I can see.
Ford is notorious for engine issues with the diesels, except the venerable 7.3, which I own. From **** head bolts to exploding, non rebuildable turbo's to lowest bidder Tier 4 compliant emissions parts.
Diesels have become very complex today and the more complexity, the more chance of failure at some point.
If I was in the market for a new truck (which I'm not), I'd buy a gasoline motor. The emissions on a gas motor have had the 'bugs' worked out. Diesels on the other hand have not.
The other 'fly in the ointment' is fuel cost of diesel over gasoline and fuel prices are going up, pretty steadily. I see the 3+ buck fuel coming again. Diesel here in Michigan is averaging $2.79 a gallon right now with regulat unleaded staying about 30 cents less. That 30 cents less adds up pretty quick, plus the up front cost of a diesel is substantially more than a gas motor.
All things to consider.
Finally, diesel routine maintenance, will always be more than a gas motor. More lube oil, more for filters and more tire wear because the torque from a diesel motor, eats tires.
The OP is looking at gasser trucks. But the 6.7 scorpion has an excellent track record so far. But yes, they are more complicated than the old 7.3’s (which I had and did love but it was a slow and weak combo compared to the new trucks) and cost a little more to change the oil and fuel filters. Some of us tow heavy and live in the West with mountains so I appreciate the power of a diesel. I didn’t buy it for mileage, although I’m averaging over 18 mpg combined or to save money at the pump or service intervals. I bought it to work and tow my boat so it was worth it. Drive a modern diesel. It will blow your mind how far they have come from my 95 power stroke or even my 07 Cummins.
But it’s not for everyone that is for sure!
I have plenty of power and torque. Mine isn't stock (never has been) but it's not chipped either. I don't believe in advancing injection timing. I'm all about intake air flow boost and exhaust flow.
Ford SVO built my truck in '98 as a special project, engine, transmission and front and rear pigs were modified. It dynoed at 343 to the rear wheels in direct and it will light up both tires (has a Detroit Tru-Trak in the back) no problem and I average around 18 on the road empty, 16 with the camper.
Plenty of go power for my old butt. Best part is no emissions whatsoever. Nothing, not even a crankcase recirc system. I have a road draft tube. Keeps the blowby out of the compressor.
Probably outlast me. I'm sure my wife will have no issue selling it. Everyone that sees it, wants it. Mint OBS 350 4 doors on 4 wd are in big demand.
Just had a garage sale and it was sitting in the side yard and everyone asked if it was for sale. My reply was.. "you cannot afford it'.
