SidecarFlip wrote:
jat4 wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
mkirsch wrote:
Only overhanging by a foot, your truck's rear bumper will hit the ground long before the camper on any terrain you can traverse with a stock pickup truck.
True, but it adds weight. All the 950's I've seen (in pictures) are on dually's.
His primary goal is offroad camping. When camping offroad, especially on unimproved 2 tracks and seasonal access, weight is a consideration. I know, thats all I do.
Nice camper (950) anyway, minus the antique roof system.
so studying the specs and features tonight. Dry weight for the three Northstar sc popups run 1610 lbs for the 650sc, 1735 for the 850sc, and 1920 lbs for the 950sc. The 650 has a 20 gal water tank, the 850 and 950 have 30 gal tanks. So it looks like the 850sc and the 950sc wouldn't be terribly different in weight--figure 1000 lbs more for wet weight and that would be 2735 vs 2920 lbs. Door sticker on the new truck lists payload as 4295. These are all narrow (7') campers, so that's good.
btw, I wouldn't be averse to considering putting the 650sc in the long box, would be able to keep the tailgate on that way. But looking for a balance point for comfortable two-person camping, still guessing the 850 would feel more comfortable without having seen any of them yet.
hey, and I did find a video on youtube of someone who had an electric roof lift on a Northstar--I'll see if I can find that again. It was from several years back.
I don't want to start a war but...
Those advertised dry weights are fiction. Not trying to demean Northstar, I like their products, you just need to keep an open mind on weight.
My Palomino was listed at 1910 and it actually weighs 2200 dry. Add in water, propane, food and gear and I'm around 3200 minus my lard arse and my skinny wife (lol).
Back when I bought my truck (1997) payload weights weren't listed on the door jamb. I guess back then they figured if it wasn't dragging it's tail on the ground, it was good to go.
I do have air bags and a sway bar (front and back) but that was for the Lance. I really don't need either for the Pop Up. I went on a 1500 pound diet.
As an aside, I have a 23 gallon FW tank but I never worry about water. I carry a 7 gallon jug in the truck, sometimes 2. Only time water is even a concern is when the wife is along. When it's just me, I find a tree.
no, I get that, we've gone through that with the trailer. I was really just making the comparison between the 850sc and 950sc, seems to me they're pretty close in weight, I think the length and overhang is the issue I'm wondering about. I also agree about the water, for hunting I make it through a week with one 5 gal jug and two dogs to keep watered.
btw I found that video on youtube, check this out, I cued it up to the right part:
https://youtu.be/Ub1AVoPS8i8?t=45s
