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ShinerBock
Jan 16, 2019Explorer
RobertRyan wrote:ShinerBock wrote:RobertRyan wrote:
No there is no demand for US Pickups, nice niche product though, that is "course not coarse." HD Pickup market Globally is a misnomer, very few are sold anywhere outside NA.What percentage Cummins who knows ? Your best bet for Cummins demand is the NA market
I would not say no demand because that would imply that there is none. There is demand and there are sales outside the US even if there few. Most regions cannot affordour trucks or their infrastructure do not support them.
Also, you cannot mix up global Cummins pickup demands for global engine demands which is what I was talking about earlier in the post you quoted. Cummins has a strong market share globally with their engines and just recently removed the EGR, "not DEF", from their global engines since global NOx emissions are less strict than US.
I did NOT SAY it had a strong market share globally, you just added that. As far as demand for HD Pickups globally extremely tiny, not nonexistent, never said that
They can afford and the infrastructure does support your Pickups, but they are not what they want
You stated "No there is no demand for US Pickups" above. You said no demand(not tiny demand) which is false. According to Ford, 98% of their fulls size trucks are sold in North America which leaves over 21,000 units sold outside NA.
Not a big number compared to the over 2,900,000 trucks sold in the US in 2018, but considering the small amount of less than 238,000 commercial vehicles(aka pickups) sold in Australia in 2018, that is not bad. It probably would have made it in the top ten Australian pickups with that many units sold.
There is demand, just not big because they can't afford our big trucks, the can't afford the fuel for them, they have increased tax on engine size, and/or most do not have the infrastructure to support them. Fact is, the market for our full size pickup is growing in Australia. Just ask the guys at American Vehicle Sales in Victoria. Well over $120k for a full size half ton pickup that we pay $40-50k for? I feel sorry for you guys. That is like us paying $90k for a half ton in US dollars.
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