New RAM HD 1000 lb-ft

RoyJ wrote:

ksss wrote:
There is more to winning the pull off contest then speed up the hill, number of brake applications on the way down and the subjective points. You might want to check it out. I do have a CDL and do tow 30K plus routinely with my Duramax trucks up and down passes, including Teton pass. I wish they would spec the trucks to their capability, for whatever reason, they don't. However speaking of speed and controllability of a load, the Duramax typically wins the IKE test. It may not be a perfect test but it is pretty comprehensive.

I've watched plenty if Ike Gauntlet runs (if you're talking about TFL truck w/ "Mr. Truck"). It's mostly entertainment.

My point is everything on the run is performance based. OEMs have to consider more, such as chassis longevity. When RAM made the jump to 30k tow ratings in 2013, they had to upgrade to a stronger frame, with new front suspension, and axles. This time RAM upgraded the chassis again to go to 35k lbs.

No one knows if the current GM chassis is strong enough, we do know it's by far the oldest. Powertrain wise, no doubt the Duramax is plenty strong.

Because Ram had to continue to increase chassis strength several times doesn't mean GM needs to. Maybe GM built their chassis with increases in mind and Ram didn't, I don't know and neither do you. If you want to move the goal posts that is fine and discuss longevity that is fine as well. The point I am making is that from a performance standpoint, the GM HD's have proved year after year regardless of what the engine ratings are they are at least competitive if they don't win outright, which they usually do. You may not think those Ike runs have value and that is fine, but it is the only venue that compares these trucks in a uniform way. I know they don't take everything into account, but I am not sure how chassis durability could ever be incorporated into them. I would imagine if they did and Ram lost that segment we would be talking about some other unmeasured segment.