New RAM short Box and B&W RVK3600 in rear most position

Me Again wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:
would that be 6" to the rear more than the normal location? I cannot think that would work very well but not really knowing for sure but I will be watching because I like to know everything.

chevman

Larry after years of std bed trucks, I can just not bring myself to owning a crew cab long bed that is a mile long.

So I am try to figure out if I can do it with a short bed without a slider hitch. Trailer has the extended pin box. And front corner of trailer are rounded quite a bit.

Need room for bikes, but Kayak will not travel. Chris

Just me, but you might want to reconsider the thought of going to a short bed. That real nice tool box sitting the bed of your current TV,likely will not fit in front of your hitch.

Trust me on this! :B :S
If you only go fro a crew cab and not a mega cab, you will be happier with the CC LB, and the room for the tool box, you will get use to the extra length.

At only 4" the weight transfer is not that much. It's pretty simple math.

We can all agree that a 500lb tongue weight bumper pull trailer does not need a weight distribution hitch on ANY full size pickup, let alone a 2500 or 3500, right? Let's say that hitch ball is 48" behind the axle of the truck.

In order for the pin weight of the 5ver at 4" behind the axle to have the same effect on the front end of the truck as a 500lb tongue weight at 48" behind the axle, your trailer would need to have a pin weight of 6000lbs.

If your 5th wheel has a tongue weight less than 6000lbs, you're golden.

larry barnhart wrote:
I was thinking it would take weight off the steering. Yes New trucks are different.Chevman

A few years ago I would have said that is a very bad idea! But the fact is with WAY over 5K pin and my B&W 3600 Full forward I only add around 100#+ to the front axle. So I would say the MAX it would lighten his front axle would be 150#. With a front axle that will weigh about 5,000# right out of the box it would not hurt to loose 150#.

Something else to consider B&W is a stand up company, I don't think they would make the hitch to be placed behind the axle if it was not ok.

I was thinking it would take weight off the steering. Yes New trucks are different.Chevman

larry barnhart wrote:
You must be buying a new truck. I will only be able to say this about what we saw once. Towing up 93 coming home we were behind a fifth that was all over the road because of the side wind. This wind was not doing anything to us. Because of not being able to pass we followed and I told my wife the truck must be over loaded. Lagging back I could tell it was a single RW truck.

When we passed I saw the truck was a 2500 dodge flat bed with the hitch at the rear. Many flat bed truck that I have seen are either a 350 or 450 truck not a 2500. The driver of what we saw must have hated that day.

chevman hitting the road for Texas soon

Today's SRW trucks with 18" tires rated to 3638 are not yesteryear's trucks. Suspension and frames have been greatly improved also. And they are heavy!

3500 SRW, rated 11,700 GVWR, Tow rating 17,100, Max load 3,953, GCWR 25,300, 385hp and 865 ft lbs with Aisin transmission.

Probably is higher in GVWR than our older dually, as it appears it has a 11,400 GVWR and 16K 5th wheel or gooseneck rating.

Chris

Chris, I mounted mine 2" in front of rear axle....yeah, long bed I know, but 4" behind the rear axle might work. I'd see what it looks like at 2" behind rear axle first and check cornering like that first. As easy as the hitch is to adjust up and down in height and moving forward or back....give it a shot and see what happens,...adjustments are easily made.


Jim

You must be buying a new truck. I will only be able to say this about what we saw once. Towing up 93 coming home we were behind a fifth that was all over the road because of the side wind. This wind was not doing anything to us. Because of not being able to pass we followed and I told my wife the truck must be over loaded. Lagging back I could tell it was a single RW truck.

When we passed I saw the truck was a 2500 dodge flat bed with the hitch at the rear. Many flat bed truck that I have seen are either a 350 or 450 truck not a 2500. The driver of what we saw must have hated that day.

chevman hitting the road for Texas soon

Me Again wrote:
Anyone tow with a new ram and have their RVK3600 set to the 4" behind the axle position. If so, how is it working out? Chris

I've been doing that for over a year now - no troubles. If I were near the max payload of the truck I might be concerned, but our 5er certainly isn't the biggest/heaviest around.

larry barnhart wrote:
would that be 6" to the rear more than the normal location? I cannot think that would work very well but not really knowing for sure but I will be watching because I like to know everything.

chevman

Larry after years of std bed trucks, I can just not bring myself to owning a crew cab long bed that is a mile long.

So I am try to figure out if I can do it with a short bed without a slider hitch. Trailer has the extended pin box. And front corner of trailer are rounded quite a bit.

Need room for bikes, but Kayak will not travel. Chris

would that be 6" to the rear more than the normal location? I cannot think that would work very well but not really knowing for sure but I will be watching because I like to know everything.

chevman