3rd times the charm Bob?
FWIW, you've asked for the same input at least twice before in recent months.
The answers won't change.
The mid size suv's you're asking about don't seem practical to me for 4 kids for regular use (big or small kids). Ever access miniature 3rd row seats daily?
But they have slightly better tow ratings than a minivan, although save for a 3.5 Ecoboost Explorer or a Hemi Durango, the towing performance will be ANEMIC.
And under $25k for 2 years old and still under factory bumper to bumper warranty (can't have high miles and get an extended warranty) is not a reality for the models that tow well and they're still small.
Thoughts on "these rigs or others"?
Re-read your last 2 threads on this.
Personally if I had to haul 6 and wanted a DD and tow rig for $25k, I would do one of 3 things.
1. Buy an old GMT400 Suburban 3/4 ton big block low miles for about $8k and spend $17k on a low mile mini van.
2. Spend $25k on the best newer suburban or Expedition I could find.
3. Buy a big van that does both.
Your wants/needs aren't commensurate with a minivan or a mini SUV. Period.