new truck cost!!

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Above post is spot on!!!

If a kid is smart they will try to get into the trades if College is not for them.

I did at 20 worked 35 years retired with great income getting my excellent medical at a reasonable rate.

I see it everyday in my field of work. I got my first public job at 13. Worked in the tobacco fields since I was a toddler. I got married at 17 and landed a welding job at a construction company that summer. Worked my way up the ranks in the field learning everything I possibly could as I went along. I don't make 6 figures LOL but I do very well for me and my family and have earned everything that I have gotten. My wife is the same way. She will retire in a few years and hopefully if our planning works out right I will be right there with her. We should live very well with what we will get and we won't be but fifty years old so we won't be drawing on our government salary yet. LOL

Above post is spot on!!!

If a kid is smart they will try to get into the trades if College is not for them.

I did at 20 worked 35 years retired with great income getting my excellent medical at a reasonable rate.

They have to go somewhere to actually find skilled labor. That's they problem here in the states. We have been pushing so hard for many many years to keep our kids in school and telling them if you stay in school and get a good education then you will get a good paying job and be the boss. Well the problem with that is that not everyone can be the boss and not every one can start out with 6 figure incomes. The people in the states don't want to start out on the bottom and work their way up. They want to start out on top. Now we have people with degrees and nothing to use them for and the others just refuse to learn so they live on Obama.

What ever happened to starting out breaking your back, learning how to actually do the work and working your way up? It's gone. We have raised all Chiefs and no Indians so the companies have to go to places where there are Indians that their Chiefs can actually get some quality work out of and not have to pay them Chief wages.

qtla9111 wrote:
People know very little about Mexico. Mexico will be one of the top ten world economies in the next five years.

So I take offense to the comment "The only infrastructure in Mexico is the drug cartels and vacation resorts."

A statement which is negative about a North American country, the second largest consumer of U.S. goods next to the U.S. itself. Mexico is the United States’ second-largest export market (after Canada) and third-largest trading partner (after Canada and China) This comes from your own U.S. governmental state department. Mexican tourists to the U.S. were over 14 million in 2013, and they spent an estimated $10.5 billion.

Keep in mind, this is an international forum and there are many people from many different countries who read this forum everyday.


Besides, who is the largest consumer of the cartels products?

Agree, Drug Cartels or not more companies are heading there to manufacture. It has a substantial Automotive infrastructure.Japanese are also moving to Mexico
Many Japanese Automakers moving to Mexico

qtla9111 wrote:
People know very little about Mexico. Mexico will be one of the top ten world economies in the next five years.

So I take offense to the comment "The only infrastructure in Mexico is the drug cartels and vacation resorts."

A statement which is negative about a North American country, the second largest consumer of U.S. goods next to the U.S. itself. Mexico is the United States’ second-largest export market (after Canada) and third-largest trading partner (after Canada and China) This comes from your own U.S. governmental state department. Mexican tourists to the U.S. were over 14 million in 2013, and they spent an estimated $10.5 billion.

Keep in mind, this is an international forum and there are many people from many different countries who read this forum everyday.

Besides, who is the largest consumer of the cartels products?

Flush out your drug cartel and perhaps Mexico could prosper. Your government is corrupt and again is controlled by the cartel.

A large group of friends and associates used to participate in a dove hunting club in Mexico and spent major $$$$ there supporting a ranch and the ranch manager and the helpers. After a group of hunters were raided by a group of cartel cowboys that stole all their guns and money the hunting club decided it was time to say Adios.

Again I spoken to quite of few people who travel to Mexico for both business and vacation which vacation is now off limits and they fear travelling on business.

You got a big mess to clean up my friend!

People know very little about Mexico. Mexico will be one of the top ten world economies in the next five years.

So I take offense to the comment "The only infrastructure in Mexico is the drug cartels and vacation resorts."

A statement which is negative about a North American country, the second largest consumer of U.S. goods next to the U.S. itself. Mexico is the United States’ second-largest export market (after Canada) and third-largest trading partner (after Canada and China) This comes from your own U.S. governmental state department. Mexican tourists to the U.S. were over 14 million in 2013, and they spent an estimated $10.5 billion.

Keep in mind, this is an international forum and there are many people from many different countries who read this forum everyday.

Besides, who is the largest consumer of the cartels products?

RobertRyan wrote:

FishOneOne wrote:

cummins,
Yes it does matter.... Watch a few minutes of this video and perhaps you may understand! "Made in the USA" means a lot to some people... Perhaps that doesn't include you!

You are going to see more not less production moved south. Mexico's infrastructure is now more comprehensive than the US, for building Automobiles and from what I gather build qualities are better.
All of the relocation to Mexico, has done it wonders
Both Canididates say they want to keep US Jobs, but their rhetoric is going to upset Mexicans and others, probably resulting in more not less Automotive jobs being lost

Sorry I offended you... Not!

I totally disagree. The Japanese have been building their factories in parts of the USA where unions are week and there's nothing like American Pride you couldn't comprehend.

The only infrastructure in Mexico is the drug cartels and vacation resorts.

FishOneOne wrote:

cummins,
Yes it does matter.... Watch a few minutes of this video and perhaps you may understand! "Made in the USA" means a lot to some people... Perhaps that doesn't include you!

You are going to see more not less production moved south. Mexico's infrastructure is now more comprehensive than the US, for building Automobiles and from what I gather build qualities are better.
All of the relocation to Mexico, has done it wonders
Both Canididates say they want to keep US Jobs, but their rhetoric is going to upset Mexicans and others, probably resulting in more not less Automotive jobs being lost

Earl E wrote:
Wow! Can't believe those prices. My 2007 looks better and better.

Makes the Aus$ 130,000 they are asking for one, look reasonable. Crazy prices.
Unfortunately the demand for US Pickups is now very low, so trying to move, these optioned out wonders, is going to be very hard. Pity the converters

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Fordlover wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Blazing Zippers wrote:
Today, I spied a brand new Ford F-150 Eco Boost 4 door for sale at Costco. The MSRP was $56,000. WOW! I didn't realize the costs had risen that much since I shopped in 2010. I can picture myself in my Mexican built Ram for many, many more years. I had no idea that aluminuium/alunimium/ er, beer can bodies cost so much.
O.K. I'm going to stand aside so I don't get injured by Ford owners.

Hey that "EGO BOOST" label does not come free! If you step up to a HD Ford with Diesel be aware the engine is Made in MEXICO.

*Correction, Assembled in Mexico. Just like the Ram isn't made in Mexico, it is assembled in Mexico.

I would like some proof of that since Fish has never corrected me when I say the engine is Made in Mexico. It really does not matter is just a truth in posting that I like to throw back at the Fish.

cummins,
Yes it does matter.... Watch a few minutes of this video and perhaps you may understand! "Made in the USA" means a lot to some people... Perhaps that doesn't include you!

KTP Truck Plant Expansion

KTP

Please DON'T quote me out of context!!! I am more buy American than 90+% of this country.

Fact is you keep side stepping that your PS engine is Made in Mexico. I acknowledge my Truck is "Assembled in Mexico" with mostly US made parts. YES I would prefer it were "Assembled" in USA like my 98 RAM was but the two alternatives just don't stack up for my needs.

So I ask you the FISH to clarify if the Ford diesel is "Assembled" or "Made" in Mexico as I have read that it is.

Ok cummins lets get to the bottom of this discussion. Yes my engine is "Mad in Mexico" from parts made in the US and Yes your Truck is "Made in Mexico" from parts made in the US and other countries. Any yes your cummins engine is "Made in the USA" but the engine block is made in Mexico. No surprises here.... But the big difference is the number of Americans who build these products vs foreign labor and a truck assembly plant employees a lot more employees than say an engine plant that consists of a lot of automation. Also another big difference is the truck that sits in my garage is an "American Company" Ford Motor Company in which a lot of the Ford family still runs the business and your's is a "Foreign Company" aka FCA - Fiat Chrysler Automobiles. Spin it however your want cummins (Assembled vs Made) but this is nothing to be proud of.

Saltillo Plant - RAM