New TV, made lemonade out of lemons...

NC Hauler wrote:

mkirsch wrote:
NC Hauler,

Rather than beat around the bush, I'll ask this question direct:

Would you limit yourself to 10,000lbs with a 10,000lb GVWR F350 SRW pickup truck, even though the only difference from a standard 11,500lb GVWR F350 SRW is a number on a sticker?

I stated what I stated... I don't care what model the truck is.. I go by trucks posted GVWR and it's posted GCWR. It's the reason I own the truck that I do. Again, this is very, very unpopular on this forum..Thus the reason I'm referred to as the weight police and even ridiculed by some who want to only use, and justify RAWR's and tire weight ratings.. Believe me, I DO understand ALL the numbers...not only RAWR's, but also the manufacturer of the rear axle and THEIR weight rating, which is normally even higher, it's just the way I prefer to do it...I've been called names and even lost friends on this forum for what I post at times on this topic.. but I KNOW I will have NO questions on if I'm going to be overweight, or if I'm going to have to "mod" something on my truck to make it work.

I've told others, when they are trying at times to justify what they're towing with, about using their RAWR and tire weight ratings to let them know how to wring out every ounce of CCC they can have, though I personally don't use this formula...it's just the popular way it's presented on this and a few other forums...I tend to actually believe it's safer to go with manufacturers suggested weight limits and figure the TV will last longer...Again, understand, it's not popular, you get called names, but I stand by my convictions....Everyone will make up their own mine as I have, and feel good about their decision, as I have.

Jim

Hey everybody gets to have an opinion. But the part in bold...I don't get it. They are literally the same truck other than a sticker on the B pillar. How on earth is one safer or going to last longer than the other when they are identical?

All hail the mighty payload sticker I guess. :E

mkirsch wrote:
NC Hauler,

Rather than beat around the bush, I'll ask this question direct:

Would you limit yourself to 10,000lbs with a 10,000lb GVWR F350 SRW pickup truck, even though the only difference from a standard 11,500lb GVWR F350 SRW is a number on a sticker?

I stated what I stated... I don't care what model the truck is.. I go by trucks posted GVWR and it's posted GCWR. It's the reason I own the truck that I do. Again, this is very, very unpopular on this forum..Thus the reason I'm referred to as the weight police and even ridiculed by some who want to only use, and justify RAWR's and tire weight ratings.. Believe me, I DO understand ALL the numbers...not only RAWR's, but also the manufacturer of the rear axle and THEIR weight rating, which is normally even higher, it's just the way I prefer to do it...I've been called names and even lost friends on this forum for what I post at times on this topic.. but I KNOW I will have NO questions on if I'm going to be overweight, or if I'm going to have to "mod" something on my truck to make it work.

I've told others, when they are trying at times to justify what they're towing with, about using their RAWR and tire weight ratings to let them know how to wring out every ounce of CCC they can have, though I personally don't use this formula...it's just the popular way it's presented on this and a few other forums...I tend to actually believe it's safer to go with manufacturers suggested weight limits and figure the TV will last longer...Again, understand, it's not popular, you get called names, but I stand by my convictions....Everyone will make up their own mine as I have, and feel good about their decision, as I have.

Jim

NC Hauler,

Rather than beat around the bush, I'll ask this question direct:

Would you limit yourself to 10,000lbs with a 10,000lb GVWR F350 SRW pickup truck, even though the only difference from a standard 11,500lb GVWR F350 SRW is a number on a sticker?

Bedlam wrote:
Some people have to live with 10k lb restrictions and this gives them a truck that is only papered that way yet has more actual capacity.

NC Hauler wrote:
...If one were to purchase the right TV for the job at hand,or match up what they're going to tow with what they're towing with, they wouldn't have to do "minor wheel and suspension upgrades to comfortably and safely tow a 5th wheel with 3,000# of pin weight ". Just common sense.

Being an Engineer, I'm one of those that looks at and tries to adhere to manufacturers specifications, THOUGH,I KNOW that safety factors are built in, i.e., lowering weights of tire ratings, axle ratings, etc....it's common sense...BUT, not being a design engineer for Ford, GM or Ram ,"I" personally don't assume it's safe to go by my own thoughts on these specs...I'll use a TV that I know for fact will tow what I want to tow, and figure I don't have to make any adjustments to my suspension, won't abuse my truck,and is safe..I won't need to ask anyone if they think my truck will tow this, I know it will, per the manufacturers recommended weights...I know it's not a popular thought on this and other forums, but it's the way I do it:)

Bedlam wrote:
Some people have to live with 10k lb restrictions and this gives them a truck that is only papered that way yet has more actual capacity.

NC Hauler wrote:
...If one were to purchase the right TV for the job at hand,or match up what they're going to tow with what they're towing with, they wouldn't have to do "minor wheel and suspension upgrades to comfortably and safely tow a 5th wheel with 3,000# of pin weight ". Just common sense.

And others upgrade trailers after buying the truck. I wouldn't waste thousands of dollars upgrading a truck to accommodate a larger trailer if the only thing I was actually upgrading was the number on my payload sticker. That would be asinine.

Some people have to live with 10k lb restrictions and this gives them a truck that is only papered that way yet has more actual capacity.

NC Hauler wrote:
...If one were to purchase the right TV for the job at hand,or match up what they're going to tow with what they're towing with, they wouldn't have to do "minor wheel and suspension upgrades to comfortably and safely tow a 5th wheel with 3,000# of pin weight ". Just common sense.

45Ricochet wrote:
Yes your LBZ is one of the finest pickup trucks built. 2006-07 years were great for both GM and Ram trucks.
I won't get on the weight war wagon but generally a 3500 will handle most any 5er, a 2500 not so much unless you put on blinders. And they all do it in saying there is no difference :W

RICK!!! Minds have been made up, Do not confuse the issue with facts.:)

Bedlam wrote:
The Class 2b trucks are limited by more by regulation than their capability and usually share most of the same components with the SRW Class 3. Your truck will handle the travel trailer just fine and may only need minor wheel and suspension upgrades to comfortably and safely tow a fifth wheel with 3000 lbs of pin weight.

...If one were to purchase the right TV for the job at hand,or match up what they're going to tow with what they're towing with, they wouldn't have to do "minor wheel and suspension upgrades to comfortably and safely tow a 5th wheel with 3,000# of pin weight ". Just common sense.

Well, today marked the first (and last) voyage of the current RV with the new truck, and boy, was it much nicer towing with this truck. I hardly noticed the TT was back there. Even though it was a short 30mi ride, it was very pleasant, even with a semi or two passing me. Plus, I got better mileage (11.5 vs 8). Hopefully on Thursday everything goes well and we pick up the new TT. For now, I'm just glad that all of the pieces fell into place (moving the brake controller and TT camera monitor, and refitting the hitch for the new TV).

The Class 2b trucks are limited by more by regulation than their capability and usually share most of the same components with the SRW Class 3. Your truck will handle the travel trailer just fine and may only need minor wheel and suspension upgrades to comfortably and safely tow a fifth wheel with 3000 lbs of pin weight.