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Nefariousd
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Dec 24, 2013

Newbie with a few questions

Hello all
I recently purchased a TC with the intent of moving my pets and family to Washington State from Arizona and subsequently exploring the PNW on the weekends with maybe some forays north of the border.

We're brand new to RV travel and looked at the TC as a reasonable gateway.

As to my driving with stuff on the truck background: I personally run a business that has me running all over the state of Arizona driving a dodge diesel towing at least 8000lbs constantly, with the occasional use of my 15K# 36' Gooseneck thrown in, to the tune of about 40K miles per year in all weather conditions.

I have done all of the weights, scaled my truck empty and found that I would be right at the specified 9900# with the TC at manufacturer stated weight ready to go.

I still have some weight available on the rear axle in this condition but adding any would put me over weight for the truck.

Truck is a 2006 Dodge 3500 SRW. (although I appreciate any advice; I'm not getting a dually. My truck is a mint 2006 with 39K miles that I searched for two years to find, I won't part with it)

TC is a Eagle cap 800 (minimal overhang) Limited, only upgrade being a solar panel. Stated weight with everything full is 2390#

The move is a 1400 mile journey and I'll need to come back to Arizona with a new tractor acquired in Eugene Oregon after I get the kids and wife settled in WA in order to get our house ready for renters.

I'm planning on installing 19.5's before I leave to add some safety margin, settle the truck a bit and bring the rotating bits up to spec with the axles.

My question concerns towing:

I have a 24' Interstate enclosed car hauler that I wanted to use to move our household goods. Trailer empty is 3400#, GVW on the trailer is 9900 just like the truck. I estimate that the stuff we are taking with us will put the trailer around 7500 and the combo will not exceed Dodge's maximum combination weight recommendation. The return trip with the tractor will have approximately the same weights.

I have a tongue weight scale and am pretty conscientious about trailer loading and keeping things in balance because I do it often.

With the upgraded wheels and tires, given that the tongue weight will about 750# to the rear of the truck (some of which will be offset by load bars)

I have Googled, read until I am dizzy and cannot find any reason why this would be ill advised, so at the risk of asking a stupid question, is there something I've missed or not thought about concerning the rig and trailer? (please be gentle, new guy remember)

Thank you for any responses

Next Question:

We'll be traveling through some places that will be reasonably cold. The furnace instructions say do not use the furnace when driving. How do we keep everything from freezing while we are traveling?
  • Personally I don't think you will have any issues. I tow a horse trailer with about the equivalent loaded weight. Only thing to remember is that the load in the bed is higher than you are used to and if you get out of sorts on a downhill the combo with be very difficult to recover. On the down grades just keep it slow, use the gears and proper braking techniques and enjoy the ride.
  • Keep in mind that the weight of the camper (and the mfgr's number) is usually for what amounts to an empty unit....heck, they seldom include the weight of the television or microwave:(
    Loading up the dogs, luggage, and DW (no, I'm not being a smart*ss:B) may also put you over limits.

    More than likely, you will be fine, but keep an eye on the tire inflation numbers during the trip...you will be close to max. Also, adding the better tires and wheels will help the tires and wheels, but won't do anything for the axles and drive-train that the weight numbers are designed for.

    I am by no means an expert on this.....I'm sure others will have better information....just tossing in my two cents....though I'm afraid that it may just confuse you even more.

    Merry Christmas!! Welcome to RVing!!:)
  • cewillis wrote:
    Looks like you've got it pretty well scoped out. But I'm suspicious about manufacturer stated camper weights.


    TC is a 2005 Eagle Cap 800 Limited which replaced the EC Lite. It is a lightweight no frills unit. It was the lightest one I could find in my budget (below $12k) and with short notice (Plans changed at last minute, we were going to buy a class C and drive separately, Wife didn't like what we could get in budget)
  • You will have absolutely no problems should you decide to go into Canada with your pets. All they ask (if they even do that) is to see if they are vaccinated for Rabies. I take my dogs across the border frequently and most times have either not been asked about the certificates or if asked rarely have they wanted to see them.
    Grant
  • Looks like you've got it pretty well scoped out. But I'm suspicious about manufacturer stated camper weights.
  • Old-Biscuit wrote:
    Canada :H
    OP is going from AZ to WA ...

    And possibly into Canada:
    Nefariousd wrote:
    ... exploring the PNW on the weekends with maybe some forays north of the border.
  • Old-Biscuit wrote:
    Canada :H
    OP is going from AZ to WA

    I have an 07' 3500 SRW----pin weight is 2900# and I'm just starting to sit on overloads.
    Rear tires (stock) are at MAX Load

    Going with different tires/rims.......load up and go.
    I would imagine that trailer has it's own brakes??


    Oh yes Trailer has brakes on both axles.

    I also installed steel blocks to slightly pre-load the over loads
  • Canada :H
    OP is going from AZ to WA

    I have an 07' 3500 SRW----pin weight is 2900# and I'm just starting to sit on overloads.
    Rear tires (stock) are at MAX Load

    Going with different tires/rims.......load up and go.
    I would imagine that trailer has it's own brakes??
  • camperpaul wrote:
    You missed one major thing which may be the deluge on your parade:

    You may have a bunch of trouble taking your pets into Canada and you will have the same problems bringing them back into the U.S.

    Check into getting them "certified" for unlimited order crossings.


    Hi Paul,

    Thank you for the reply pets won't be going to Canada (one of the Bostons got busted smuggling chew toys and is on Federal probation)
  • You missed one major thing which may be the deluge on your parade:

    You may have a bunch of trouble taking your pets into Canada and you will have the same problems bringing them back into the U.S.

    Check into getting them "certified" for unlimited order crossings.