Cummins in a Nissan for 2016. Nissanusa.com/truck

Yeah, sounds like it was or is being shown at the Detroit Auto Show today.More info here:AutoBlog - 2016 Nissan Titan XD arrives with diesel V8 powerAutoBlog's Steven J. Ewing wrote:Feels like this one's been coming soon (or is that #CumminsSoon?), forever. Over a decade since theNissan Titan launched, the Japanese fullsize pickup has finally been given a full redesign, and it looks to be a worthy – and interesting – competitor in the light-duty pickup class.First and foremost, the truck debuting here in Detroit is the Titan XD – it's not a trim level, but a totally different version of the standard Titan, despite looking the same. The best way to explain the difference is that if the Titan competes with a Silverado 1500, the XD competes with something a step higher, but not a full 2500. Think of it as a Silverado 2000 or something – a step between light and heavy duty. Nissan truly thinks there's a white space in this pickup segment. The company isn't ready to release details on the standard Titan just yet, and the XD with the diesel engine will be the first version to come to market.The diesel in question is the long-awaited 5.0-liter V8 from Cummins, producing 310 horsepower and 555 pound-feet of torque, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission. When properly equipped, the Titan XD can tow up to 12,000 pounds, and has a payload capacity of 2,000 pounds. Nissan has confirmed that gasoline V6 and V8 options will be available on both Titan and Titan XD models, but has not released any details at this time. The 5.0-liter Cummins turbodiesel V8 will only be offered on the XD. Nissan is upgrading its Around View Monitor with features to aid with towing, too.Shown here as a Crew Cab, the Titan will be offered in King Cab and Single Cab configurations, as well, with three bed lengths (a 6.5-foot bed is seen here). Nissan has also told us that a lower-grade work truck will be available, as well. As the models roll out, the Titan and Titan XD will be offered in several trims, including a rugged-looking Pro-4X model and a new, top-of-the-line Platinum Reserve. All except the Pro-4X can be had with two- or four-wheel drive.Speaking of looks, we have to say, this is a pretty nice looking truck. Its appearance is fresh and modern, if awfully reminiscent of other trucks in the segment (hard to offer a unique design with that shape, of course). Up front, there are premium elements like available LED headlamps with LED running lamps, and out back, those same modern bulbs are used for the taillamps. Inside, things are pretty cool, with high-quality materials used throughout and, from what we could tell while poking around early pre-production units, a very solid level of fit and finish.We'll have much, much more information following the Titan's reveal at the Detroit Auto Show today. For now, scroll down to check out Nissan's full press blast.More on the link...

Looks like a cross between a Ram and a F150.

It might serve a niche market - I was reading that they are making a Titan XD (supposedly heavier duty than a half ton but not quite a 3/4 ton) Anyways, it's capable up to 12 or 13000 lbs towing and more than 2000 lbs payload. I see the market here (I don't know if it's very big) but I can see the use for it. I don't expect the 5.0L Cummins to be putting out the fuel economy numbers like the 3.0 Ecodiesel from Ram or the Ecoboost from Ford - but hey seems interesting right? Can't wait to see one in person. FWIW I think Toyota also signed on to the 5.0 Cummins program so Nissan probably will not be the only player in developing a truck that is between a half ton and 3/4 ton truck.

mrkoje wrote:It might serve a niche market - I was reading that they are making a Titan XD (supposedly heavier duty than a half ton but not quite a 3/4 ton) Anyways, it's capable up to 12 or 13000 lbs towing and more than 2000 lbs payload. I see the market here (I don't know if it's very big) but I can see the use for it. I don't expect the 5.0L Cummins to be putting out the fuel economy numbers like the 3.0 Ecodiesel from Ram or the Ecoboost from Ford - but hey seems interesting right? Can't wait to see one in person. FWIW I think Toyota also signed on to the 5.0 Cummins program so Nissan probably will not be the only player in developing a truck that is between a half ton and 3/4 ton truck.If RAM can sell all of the Diesels they can produce-there will indeed be a market for this truck. Nissan has always made good trucks-they just never sold in great numbers for other reasons.

Need 3500 payload to really fit the niche. Otherwise F150 8200 gvwr covers it better IMHO.I think Nissan undersized the first Titan rear axle also.

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RobertRyan
Explorer
Jan 19, 2015
RoyJ wrote:
smkettner wrote:
Need 3500 payload to really fit the niche. Otherwise F150 8200 gvwr covers it better IMHO.

I think Nissan undersized the first Titan rear axle also.

3500!? That's beyond the abilities of most true 3/4 ton crew cab diesels. Ram couldn't attain those numbers till they went to coil rears, 11.5 axle, and 50ksi frame...

This truck is a direct competitor to the 8200 F150 that you mentioned. Neither of which comes near 3500 lbs payload in the crew cab configuration.

In fact, I bet the crew cab, 6.5' bed F150 is pretty much bang-on with this Titan's payload, and that's before factoring in the heavier diesel.

As I have posted elsewhere , the only standard Pickups that come close are what you get outside the U.S., or the 1 tonners as they are called here. I think the recod now is 3200lb
transamz9
Explorer
Jan 19, 2015
RoyJ wrote:
rjstractor wrote:
jus2shy wrote:
Same aisin as in the ram. As69rc, overkill really.

So this thing has a engine and transmission both designed for medium duty commercial truck usage and a 13 inch rear axle. We know that Nissan has suspension and running gear in their parts bin capable of supporting a 10Kish GVWR truck in their NV3500 van. Maybe this thing is really a 2500 series-spec truck, but they are not marketing it as such because it has considerably less hp and torque than the big 3 diesels.

The 13" ring gear is likely a mis-print. A dually Ram 3500 only runs 11.75".

13" is well into 450/4500 territory.

I seen an ad on FB that said "available goose neck hitch" This was on FB so IDK but it was a Nissan page. Maybe someone can look around on there. I can't do it from this computer.
Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Jan 19, 2015
RoyJ wrote:
rjstractor wrote:
jus2shy wrote:
Same aisin as in the ram. As69rc, overkill really.

So this thing has a engine and transmission both designed for medium duty commercial truck usage and a 13 inch rear axle. We know that Nissan has suspension and running gear in their parts bin capable of supporting a 10Kish GVWR truck in their NV3500 van. Maybe this thing is really a 2500 series-spec truck, but they are not marketing it as such because it has considerably less hp and torque than the big 3 diesels.

The 13" ring gear is likely a mis-print. A dually Ram 3500 only runs 11.75".

13" is well into 450/4500 territory.

Something's weird here. There is no reason to use a 13" ring gear in this truck. It would just waste fuel and HP and serve no purpose. Nowday's nobody wants to waste fuel..........not even a drop.
fx2tom
Explorer
Jan 19, 2015
brulaz wrote:
fx2tom wrote:
Nissan had them out in Southern CA this weekend so me and the little guy went and looked at them and I will say that, in person, I was drooling. The interior is very very nice and the outside actually looks pretty good. I told DW that I'd be seriously considering a new truck when this things hits it's second or third model year and all of the kinks are worked out.

Did you get a good look inside?
Was there a Exhaust Brake knob or switch?
Haven't seen anything in the press about Nissan using the Cummins 5L exhaust brake so was wondering ...

I didn't get a lot of time inside but there was a switch next to the brake controller but the guy from Nissan had like 10 people waiting to talk to him so I didn't wait to ask.
brulaz
Explorer
Jan 19, 2015
fx2tom wrote:
Nissan had them out in Southern CA this weekend so me and the little guy went and looked at them and I will say that, in person, I was drooling. The interior is very very nice and the outside actually looks pretty good. I told DW that I'd be seriously considering a new truck when this things hits it's second or third model year and all of the kinks are worked out.

Did you get a good look inside?
Was there a Exhaust Brake knob or switch?
Haven't seen anything in the press about Nissan using the Cummins 5L exhaust brake so was wondering ...
fx2tom
Explorer
Jan 19, 2015
Nissan had them out in Southern CA this weekend so me and the little guy went and looked at them and I will say that, in person, I was drooling. The interior is very very nice and the outside actually looks pretty good. I told DW that I'd be seriously considering a new truck when this things hits it's second or third model year and all of the kinks are worked out.
spud1957
Explorer
Jan 17, 2015
smkettner wrote:
Need 3500 payload to really fit the niche. Otherwise F150 8200 gvwr covers it better IMHO.

I think Nissan undersized the first Titan rear axle also.

The F150 HD Payload package for 2015 is now 7850 GVWR.
RoyJ
Explorer
Jan 16, 2015
rjstractor wrote:
jus2shy wrote:
Same aisin as in the ram. As69rc, overkill really.

So this thing has a engine and transmission both designed for medium duty commercial truck usage and a 13 inch rear axle. We know that Nissan has suspension and running gear in their parts bin capable of supporting a 10Kish GVWR truck in their NV3500 van. Maybe this thing is really a 2500 series-spec truck, but they are not marketing it as such because it has considerably less hp and torque than the big 3 diesels.

The 13" ring gear is likely a mis-print. A dually Ram 3500 only runs 11.75".

13" is well into 450/4500 territory.
RoyJ
Explorer
Jan 16, 2015
smkettner wrote:
Need 3500 payload to really fit the niche. Otherwise F150 8200 gvwr covers it better IMHO.

I think Nissan undersized the first Titan rear axle also.

3500!? That's beyond the abilities of most true 3/4 ton crew cab diesels. Ram couldn't attain those numbers till they went to coil rears, 11.5 axle, and 50ksi frame...

This truck is a direct competitor to the 8200 F150 that you mentioned. Neither of which comes near 3500 lbs payload in the crew cab configuration.

In fact, I bet the crew cab, 6.5' bed F150 is pretty much bang-on with this Titan's payload, and that's before factoring in the heavier diesel.
wuhungsix
Explorer
Jan 16, 2015
I had a first gen Titan (first truck ever). I was ignorant and I loved that truck to death. Still miss it. Even through its issues mostly squeaky cheap interior and constantly failing rear axle seals.

I'm new proud fan of Cummins engines as I now have a 1-ton 6.7 Cummins SRW. I was secretly hoping for a great looking 2nd gen Titan to carry the 5L Cummins. But man that thing is hideous! I always liked the Tundra aesthetics and hope they can put a better face on this powertrain.