Cummins in a Nissan for 2016. Nissanusa.com/truck

Yeah, sounds like it was or is being shown at the Detroit Auto Show today.More info here:AutoBlog - 2016 Nissan Titan XD arrives with diesel V8 powerAutoBlog's Steven J. Ewing wrote:Feels like this one's been coming soon (or is that #CumminsSoon?), forever. Over a decade since theNissan Titan launched, the Japanese fullsize pickup has finally been given a full redesign, and it looks to be a worthy – and interesting – competitor in the light-duty pickup class.First and foremost, the truck debuting here in Detroit is the Titan XD – it's not a trim level, but a totally different version of the standard Titan, despite looking the same. The best way to explain the difference is that if the Titan competes with a Silverado 1500, the XD competes with something a step higher, but not a full 2500. Think of it as a Silverado 2000 or something – a step between light and heavy duty. Nissan truly thinks there's a white space in this pickup segment. The company isn't ready to release details on the standard Titan just yet, and the XD with the diesel engine will be the first version to come to market.The diesel in question is the long-awaited 5.0-liter V8 from Cummins, producing 310 horsepower and 555 pound-feet of torque, mated to a six-speed automatic transmission. When properly equipped, the Titan XD can tow up to 12,000 pounds, and has a payload capacity of 2,000 pounds. Nissan has confirmed that gasoline V6 and V8 options will be available on both Titan and Titan XD models, but has not released any details at this time. The 5.0-liter Cummins turbodiesel V8 will only be offered on the XD. Nissan is upgrading its Around View Monitor with features to aid with towing, too.Shown here as a Crew Cab, the Titan will be offered in King Cab and Single Cab configurations, as well, with three bed lengths (a 6.5-foot bed is seen here). Nissan has also told us that a lower-grade work truck will be available, as well. As the models roll out, the Titan and Titan XD will be offered in several trims, including a rugged-looking Pro-4X model and a new, top-of-the-line Platinum Reserve. All except the Pro-4X can be had with two- or four-wheel drive.Speaking of looks, we have to say, this is a pretty nice looking truck. Its appearance is fresh and modern, if awfully reminiscent of other trucks in the segment (hard to offer a unique design with that shape, of course). Up front, there are premium elements like available LED headlamps with LED running lamps, and out back, those same modern bulbs are used for the taillamps. Inside, things are pretty cool, with high-quality materials used throughout and, from what we could tell while poking around early pre-production units, a very solid level of fit and finish.We'll have much, much more information following the Titan's reveal at the Detroit Auto Show today. For now, scroll down to check out Nissan's full press blast.More on the link...

Looks like a cross between a Ram and a F150.

It might serve a niche market - I was reading that they are making a Titan XD (supposedly heavier duty than a half ton but not quite a 3/4 ton) Anyways, it's capable up to 12 or 13000 lbs towing and more than 2000 lbs payload. I see the market here (I don't know if it's very big) but I can see the use for it. I don't expect the 5.0L Cummins to be putting out the fuel economy numbers like the 3.0 Ecodiesel from Ram or the Ecoboost from Ford - but hey seems interesting right? Can't wait to see one in person. FWIW I think Toyota also signed on to the 5.0 Cummins program so Nissan probably will not be the only player in developing a truck that is between a half ton and 3/4 ton truck.

mrkoje wrote:It might serve a niche market - I was reading that they are making a Titan XD (supposedly heavier duty than a half ton but not quite a 3/4 ton) Anyways, it's capable up to 12 or 13000 lbs towing and more than 2000 lbs payload. I see the market here (I don't know if it's very big) but I can see the use for it. I don't expect the 5.0L Cummins to be putting out the fuel economy numbers like the 3.0 Ecodiesel from Ram or the Ecoboost from Ford - but hey seems interesting right? Can't wait to see one in person. FWIW I think Toyota also signed on to the 5.0 Cummins program so Nissan probably will not be the only player in developing a truck that is between a half ton and 3/4 ton truck.If RAM can sell all of the Diesels they can produce-there will indeed be a market for this truck. Nissan has always made good trucks-they just never sold in great numbers for other reasons.

Need 3500 payload to really fit the niche. Otherwise F150 8200 gvwr covers it better IMHO.I think Nissan undersized the first Titan rear axle also.

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goducks10
Explorer
Jan 14, 2015
Only negative to the F150 HD package is you have to order it. With the Nissan it's going to be a stock item.
mrkoje
Explorer
Jan 14, 2015
Cummins12V98 wrote:
mrkoje wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Shame RAM let that one get away.

I don't think its a shame - Ram was/is going for fuel economy out of a 1500 series truck. Which is why they have a 3.0L they call an Ecodiesel. The 5.0L Cummins wouldn't have made much sense in a 1500 platform especially with Ram offering the 6.7L Cummins in a 2500.

I don't think the economy would have been much different. Reports of 23mpg are not hard to obtain. My 98 12V 2wd 5 speed will do that no problem on the freeway.

Well the Ecodiesel in the Ram puts out 28MPG with various customer reports of even higher. I don't believe the 5.0L Cummins mated with a Nissan truck will be pulling anything close to that. I could be wrong but will have to wait to find out. All I'm saying is that it isn't a "shame" that Ram passed on the 5.0L Cummins. That engine just wasn't what Ram was looking for in a small displacement diesel for fuel economy. I do think it's a perfect fit for Nissan or Toyota or any manufacturer that wants to make a heavier duty 1500 series truck with more capability than the other 1500s on the market but yet more nimble than a traditional 3/4 ton.

Like another poster said though - Ford has the 2000lb payload beat with their F150 when equipped with the HD payload and Max tow packages. So we'll see where this Nissan takes us - it's a market for sure albeit we don't really know how large.
DaveF-250SD
Explorer
Jan 13, 2015
smkettner wrote:
13" ring gear and 2000 pound payload? I think Nissan is missing the mark here.

Agreed. Almost as if they are one-upping the Tundra's 10.5" ring gear. They can put a 25" ring gear and 8 inch axle tubes in it if they choose to, at the end of the day it is still a semi-floating axle. They should have sourced or designed a 9.75-10.5 inch full floating axle. That would easily get them into a payload capacity comparable to some 3/4 ton trucks. Perhaps their intent is to keep it in the half ton class, where it will be top dog with 500+ ft. lbs. of torque and diesel power.
time2roll
Nomad
Jan 13, 2015
13" ring gear and 2000 pound payload? I think Nissan is missing the mark here.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jan 13, 2015
mrkoje wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Shame RAM let that one get away.

I don't think its a shame - Ram was/is going for fuel economy out of a 1500 series truck. Which is why they have a 3.0L they call an Ecodiesel. The 5.0L Cummins wouldn't have made much sense in a 1500 platform especially with Ram offering the 6.7L Cummins in a 2500.

I don't think the economy would have been much different. Reports of 23mpg are not hard to obtain. My 98 12V 2wd 5 speed will do that no problem on the freeway.
fx2tom
Explorer
Jan 13, 2015
BenK wrote:

My guess is that their weak link will be in the tranny...

6 speed Aisin I think it should be alright
BenK
Explorer
Jan 13, 2015
It all boils down to what is the weakest link in the food chain down to pavement

It sure has the power or enough power, but that isn't the weak link in most
TV's towing heavy...it is the pay load and the diff rating

On the diff rating...tell me folks...who has a diff ring gear larger than what
is announced to be?

Quote from: Off-Road.com
offroad.com wrote:

The Titan XD features purpose-built American Axle Manufacturing (AAM) axles: 9.25 inches in front, 13.0 inches
with 3.5-inch axle tubes in the rear. Nissan says an electronic locking rear differential is an available option

My Sub is a 8.6K GVWR, 6K RGAWR with a 10.5" dia ring gear. The newer
pickups have 11.5" dia ring gear with a +7K RGAWR

This is going to or reported to have a 13" dia ring gear from the same supplier
to GM as mine...AAM

My guess is that their weak link will be in the tranny...until they
figure that out and very soon after problems, if problems, are found

Been saying for years...that the big three's +8K GVWR will have their
lunches eaten by foreign if they don't get their act together...they
have been getting it together and IHMO pushed by foreign...

I might jump if Nissan comes out with a decent (to me) SUV with a
+8K GVWR
john_bet
Explorer II
Jan 13, 2015
I'll take my 5.0L Cummins in a Freightliner Chassis please, thank you.
mrkoje
Explorer
Jan 13, 2015
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Shame RAM let that one get away.

I don't think its a shame - Ram was/is going for fuel economy out of a 1500 series truck. Which is why they have a 3.0L they call an Ecodiesel. The 5.0L Cummins wouldn't have made much sense in a 1500 platform especially with Ram offering the 6.7L Cummins in a 2500.
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Jan 13, 2015
Shame RAM let that one get away.

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