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Nissan Diesel

My Buddy and I stopped to look at one of the Nissan Diesels they had a $65,000 price on it. Looking a little closer to the sticker the Dealer added $6,800 for their "Add On's". It was a really nice tr...

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brulaz wrote:
Supposed to be a modified frame from a NV3500. And the drive train up to and including the rear differential is very stout as well to support the Cummins torque.

What seems to be limiting payload is the rest of the rear axle: semi-float, and the nice/soft suspension, wheels and maybe tires.


I agree, subbing in a few components from the NV3500 would give the truck a RGWAR of over 6000, a GVWR of around 10K and a payload of 3K. The problem is that it would then get trounced in the horsepower and torque ratings of the big 3's 2500 series trucks. Nissan couldn't really claim better mileage either since there are no EPA ratings in that weight class. Doesn't seem as though the XD really gets much better MPG anyway.","body@stringLength":"789","rawBody":"
brulaz wrote:
Supposed to be a modified frame from a NV3500. And the drive train up to and including the rear differential is very stout as well to support the Cummins torque.

What seems to be limiting payload is the rest of the rear axle: semi-float, and the nice/soft suspension, wheels and maybe tires.


I agree, subbing in a few components from the NV3500 would give the truck a RGWAR of over 6000, a GVWR of around 10K and a payload of 3K. The problem is that it would then get trounced in the horsepower and torque ratings of the big 3's 2500 series trucks. Nissan couldn't really claim better mileage either since there are no EPA ratings in that weight class. Doesn't seem as though the XD really gets much better MPG 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