noisy generators

Gdetrailer wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
Someone must need a nap.:B

Do you have both generators? I do. You may not like my opinions that were formed from real experience....
My advice to you is.... Get over it.

And don't even try to bully me, by telling me how to post.. Once again... Get over it.

By not qualifying the actual real experience (ie. amount of load on the generators), you spread miss information. A blanket statement about the traditional generator (Champion) guzzling fuel compared to the Honda is false (well, maybe true in a subjective manner) under high loads.

Maybe it is you that should "get over it"

What exactly am I to "get over"?
I have both generators at my disposal and can use whichever one I want..
I choose the Hondas for the fuel savings.

As far as "qualifying" my statements.... Just how far do want me to go to satisfy you? Times, dates, tempertures, altitudes, specific loads ?
There will never be enough "qualifying" to suit some that have a different OPINION...

So I won't bother trying to please those.

But I will say that it is a pretty safe bet that the vast majority of TT owners use their generators mostly to keep the batteries up, and occasional microwave use. For that the Hondas will use SUBSTANTIALLY less fuel... And yes we have done side by side comparisons on this.
My brother powering his rig with the Champion, and my rig being powered by the Honda. I even have more load as I also have a small external freezer that I bring along.

And as far as how much a Honda will use at full load compared to the Champion?
I honestly don't know as I have never run at full load for enough time to tell... But that's OK as those that are dissing me don't know either as they don't have a Honda to test..

Perhaps what we have here is a severe case of generator envy.:B

Huntin' First of all, IF your wattage "needs" are so small then why on earth would you intentionally buy a 4Kw gen?

A 1Kw inverter gen would be all you "need" according to what YOU have posted.. Pretty much stands to reason that if you have a small load then a smaller gen will consume LESS than a bigger gen with the same small load..

Personally, with your such small demands, you should have simply spent the money on SOLAR PANELS. For the thousands of dollars you have spend on gens and fuel you could have easily bought 500W or more in solar panels. Then you wouldn't be griping on how much fuel a 4Kw gen uses..

Besides I am getting the feeling that you never really had a Champion to start with.. I smell a RED troll.. :S

OhhWell wrote:

MM49 wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

MM49 wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
What exactly am I to "get over"?
I have both generators at my disposal and can use whichever one I want..
I choose the Hondas for the fuel savings.

As far as "qualifying" my statements.... Just how far do want me to go to satisfy you? Times, dates, tempertures, altitudes, specific loads ?
There will never be enough "qualifying" to suit some that have a different OPINION...

So I won't bother trying to please those.

But I will say that it is a pretty safe bet that the vast majority of TT owners use their generators mostly to keep the batteries up, and occasional microwave use. For that the Hondas will use SUBSTANTIALLY less fuel... And yes we have done side by side comparisons on this.
My brother powering his rig with the Champion, and my rig being powered by the Honda. I even have more load as I also have a small external freezer that I bring along.

And as far as how much a Honda will use at full load compared to the Champion?
I honestly don't know as I have never run at full load for enough time to tell... But that's OK as those that are dissing me don't know either as they don't have a Honda to test..

Perhaps what we have here is a severe case of generator envy.:B

I have a 5.5k Onan that uses less fuel than your little red box watt for watt and is quieter in the campground when I hook up my Genturi. It also starts with the touch of a button and has a 50 gallon gas tank. Tell me why I am envious of your "cheap" little red generator because I also own a Champion 3500w again? :B

It's a completely safe bet that almost all of the TT owners and campers in my neck of the woods need something with actual capacity in the summer.

You admittedly have no idea what your Honda consumes under a load but we cannot either even though Honda publishes fuel consumption numbers? There is also a gentleman who gave the Honda a real world test here:

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/24022161/gotomsg/24963199.cfm

Remember that you will need TWO Honda EU2000i's to match the capacity of the Champion. (or about 3 to match my Onan)

The inverter generators are great and I wouldn't mind having one. They are absolutely brilliant if you don't need much power capacity but they don't bend the laws of physics.

It always surprises me how little people know about efficiency. You need to design the system for the load level that is used the most.

The inverters allow a variable size source to be used. The inverter can be a small generator or a large generator and be efficient at the same time.

The large synchronous generator must run at fixed speed. The last thing I would want is an 8hp – 12hp engine running all day to provide 8 AMP VAC to power a battery charger.
Mm49

The "quiet" 2000w inverter genset will need a twin and full throttle to run a TT using its AC in the summer. The part about sizing your generator for the needed load is what started this mini squabble when someone called the champion a gas guzzler compared to the Honda without qualifying the load.

It always surprises me how people can fail to read a thread and jump in in the middle with a derogatory comment. I don't have anything against derogatory comments when they are at least informed derogatory comments. :D

Buy the correct tool for the job. A Yamaha 3000SEBi.
mm49

That is a very nice genset and definitely better on paper than 2 Honda 2000's. 60db under full load is amazing even though I can't find how far from the genset that measurement was taken. The temporary boost from the battery is a great idea. So much money for these things though!

MM49 wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

MM49 wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
What exactly am I to "get over"?
I have both generators at my disposal and can use whichever one I want..
I choose the Hondas for the fuel savings.

As far as "qualifying" my statements.... Just how far do want me to go to satisfy you? Times, dates, tempertures, altitudes, specific loads ?
There will never be enough "qualifying" to suit some that have a different OPINION...

So I won't bother trying to please those.

But I will say that it is a pretty safe bet that the vast majority of TT owners use their generators mostly to keep the batteries up, and occasional microwave use. For that the Hondas will use SUBSTANTIALLY less fuel... And yes we have done side by side comparisons on this.
My brother powering his rig with the Champion, and my rig being powered by the Honda. I even have more load as I also have a small external freezer that I bring along.

And as far as how much a Honda will use at full load compared to the Champion?
I honestly don't know as I have never run at full load for enough time to tell... But that's OK as those that are dissing me don't know either as they don't have a Honda to test..

Perhaps what we have here is a severe case of generator envy.:B

I have a 5.5k Onan that uses less fuel than your little red box watt for watt and is quieter in the campground when I hook up my Genturi. It also starts with the touch of a button and has a 50 gallon gas tank. Tell me why I am envious of your "cheap" little red generator because I also own a Champion 3500w again? :B

It's a completely safe bet that almost all of the TT owners and campers in my neck of the woods need something with actual capacity in the summer.

You admittedly have no idea what your Honda consumes under a load but we cannot either even though Honda publishes fuel consumption numbers? There is also a gentleman who gave the Honda a real world test here:

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/24022161/gotomsg/24963199.cfm

Remember that you will need TWO Honda EU2000i's to match the capacity of the Champion. (or about 3 to match my Onan)

The inverter generators are great and I wouldn't mind having one. They are absolutely brilliant if you don't need much power capacity but they don't bend the laws of physics.

It always surprises me how little people know about efficiency. You need to design the system for the load level that is used the most.

The inverters allow a variable size source to be used. The inverter can be a small generator or a large generator and be efficient at the same time.

The large synchronous generator must run at fixed speed. The last thing I would want is an 8hp – 12hp engine running all day to provide 8 AMP VAC to power a battery charger.
Mm49

The "quiet" 2000w inverter genset will need a twin and full throttle to run a TT using its AC in the summer. The part about sizing your generator for the needed load is what started this mini squabble when someone called the champion a gas guzzler compared to the Honda without qualifying the load.

It always surprises me how people can fail to read a thread and jump in in the middle with a derogatory comment. I don't have anything against derogatory comments when they are at least informed derogatory comments. :D

Buy the correct tool for the job. A Yamaha 3000SEBi.
mm49

OhhWell wrote:

MM49 wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
What exactly am I to "get over"?
I have both generators at my disposal and can use whichever one I want..
I choose the Hondas for the fuel savings.

As far as "qualifying" my statements.... Just how far do want me to go to satisfy you? Times, dates, tempertures, altitudes, specific loads ?
There will never be enough "qualifying" to suit some that have a different OPINION...

So I won't bother trying to please those.

But I will say that it is a pretty safe bet that the vast majority of TT owners use their generators mostly to keep the batteries up, and occasional microwave use. For that the Hondas will use SUBSTANTIALLY less fuel... And yes we have done side by side comparisons on this.
My brother powering his rig with the Champion, and my rig being powered by the Honda. I even have more load as I also have a small external freezer that I bring along.

And as far as how much a Honda will use at full load compared to the Champion?
I honestly don't know as I have never run at full load for enough time to tell... But that's OK as those that are dissing me don't know either as they don't have a Honda to test..

Perhaps what we have here is a severe case of generator envy.:B

I have a 5.5k Onan that uses less fuel than your little red box watt for watt and is quieter in the campground when I hook up my Genturi. It also starts with the touch of a button and has a 50 gallon gas tank. Tell me why I am envious of your "cheap" little red generator because I also own a Champion 3500w again? :B

It's a completely safe bet that almost all of the TT owners and campers in my neck of the woods need something with actual capacity in the summer.

You admittedly have no idea what your Honda consumes under a load but we cannot either even though Honda publishes fuel consumption numbers? There is also a gentleman who gave the Honda a real world test here:

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/24022161/gotomsg/24963199.cfm

Remember that you will need TWO Honda EU2000i's to match the capacity of the Champion. (or about 3 to match my Onan)

The inverter generators are great and I wouldn't mind having one. They are absolutely brilliant if you don't need much power capacity but they don't bend the laws of physics.

It always surprises me how little people know about efficiency. You need to design the system for the load level that is used the most.

The inverters allow a variable size source to be used. The inverter can be a small generator or a large generator and be efficient at the same time.

The large synchronous generator must run at fixed speed. The last thing I would want is an 8hp – 12hp engine running all day to provide 8 AMP VAC to power a battery charger.
Mm49

The "quiet" 2000w inverter genset will need a twin and full throttle to run a TT using its AC in the summer. The part about sizing your generator for the needed load is what started this mini squabble when someone called the champion a gas guzzler compared to the Honda without qualifying the load.

It always surprises me how people can fail to read a thread and jump in in the middle with a derogatory comment. I don't have anything against derogatory comments when they are at least informed derogatory comments. :D

MM49 wrote:

OhhWell wrote:

Huntindog wrote:
What exactly am I to "get over"?
I have both generators at my disposal and can use whichever one I want..
I choose the Hondas for the fuel savings.

As far as "qualifying" my statements.... Just how far do want me to go to satisfy you? Times, dates, tempertures, altitudes, specific loads ?
There will never be enough "qualifying" to suit some that have a different OPINION...

So I won't bother trying to please those.

But I will say that it is a pretty safe bet that the vast majority of TT owners use their generators mostly to keep the batteries up, and occasional microwave use. For that the Hondas will use SUBSTANTIALLY less fuel... And yes we have done side by side comparisons on this.
My brother powering his rig with the Champion, and my rig being powered by the Honda. I even have more load as I also have a small external freezer that I bring along.

And as far as how much a Honda will use at full load compared to the Champion?
I honestly don't know as I have never run at full load for enough time to tell... But that's OK as those that are dissing me don't know either as they don't have a Honda to test..

Perhaps what we have here is a severe case of generator envy.:B

I have a 5.5k Onan that uses less fuel than your little red box watt for watt and is quieter in the campground when I hook up my Genturi. It also starts with the touch of a button and has a 50 gallon gas tank. Tell me why I am envious of your "cheap" little red generator because I also own a Champion 3500w again? :B

It's a completely safe bet that almost all of the TT owners and campers in my neck of the woods need something with actual capacity in the summer.

You admittedly have no idea what your Honda consumes under a load but we cannot either even though Honda publishes fuel consumption numbers? There is also a gentleman who gave the Honda a real world test here:

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/24022161/gotomsg/24963199.cfm

Remember that you will need TWO Honda EU2000i's to match the capacity of the Champion. (or about 3 to match my Onan)

The inverter generators are great and I wouldn't mind having one. They are absolutely brilliant if you don't need much power capacity but they don't bend the laws of physics.

It always surprises me how little people know about efficiency. You need to design the system for the load level that is used the most.

The inverters allow a variable size source to be used. The inverter can be a small generator or a large generator and be efficient at the same time.

The large synchronous generator must run at fixed speed. The last thing I would want is an 8hp – 12hp engine running all day to provide 8 AMP VAC to power a battery charger.
Mm49