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n0arp
Apr 17, 2021Explorer
ognend wrote:
Spend some time on the Powerstroke 6.7L facebook group or on any powerstroke online forums.
I'm not gullible enough to buy a Powerstroke.
ognend wrote:
Sure, if you have money coming out of your ears, it is never about cost ;
I'm you even you buy more than you need at times. As I see it, choosing a diesel pickup over a gasoline pickup is comparable to buying a luxury sedan over an economy one.
ognend wrote:
So you did have a CP4 failure? ;) What was the bill? $10K? $12K
Around $10K, but who buys a BMW or any german car without expecting repairs? You can swap both Duramax and Cummins to CP3 if the CP4 keeps you up at night. An argument against a particular fuel pump is not a valid argument against a fuel.
ognend wrote:
Lucky you warranty covered it. Ford is not covering them, that's why there is a class action lawsuit.
One of the multiple reasons I would not buy another Ford. An argument against a particular brand is not a valid argument against a fuel.
ognend wrote:
Why? If diesels are so reliable.....
An argument against a particular fuel pump is not a valid argument against a fuel.
ognend wrote:
I was talking about money - what modern diesels cost to maintain/operate and the issues they are seeing.
And I'm noting that you're exaggerating the issues and blind to how people prioritize spending.
ognend wrote:
People buy what they are programmed to buy or what others tell them to buy. "Hey guys, I bought a 10K lbs travel trailer, what truck do I get???". "Buy a diesel! They last forever and they have awesome power!".
Buy the right tool for the job. I'm not telling anyone what to buy. I'm saying that the issues with diesel engines are not as common as you portray, and that you fail to acknowledge that some things are bought because they're wanted, not needed.
ognend wrote:
I agree, easier to tow with an exhaust brake but gassers have natural engine retardation so that counts for something at least.
They do, but it's not anywhere close. And every one I've towed with has had to scream to utilize it with anything marginally steep or heavy.
ognend wrote:
Hmmm. An F-250 gasser and F-350 gasser (in the SRW version) will almost always be rated for more payload because the gas engine is lighter than the diesel so at least in "legal" ratings with in a particular GVWR it will have more payload.
There is a whole lot more to this than payload/GVWR even if you aren't discussing being overweight. Longevity will vary between parts, with the heavier parts usually lasting longer under similar loading. And for those of us who spend a lot of time off-road, the transfer cases and axles are often of great value. I don't want to snap a shaft with a heavy camper while crawling off a small shelf.
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